Great speech. Fiery. Strong. The new image: Obama as commander in chief. I think he's won this. I keep saying that he's already president, he is. The speech got better and better as it went along. The spiritual ending was a surprise and interesting, black gospel roots, Martin Luther King Jr. I liked the togetherness theme and the sense of grim biblical challenges. Jimmy Carter didn't know how to talk about such challenges, he does. More of a pol than Jimmy, more of a leader. Said Middle East once, threw the Israel steak on the grill. But the ending lifted us toward some unglimpsed organic future. I liked it, I have to think most Americans will nod their heads at the challenge, and see McCain as too puny for these times.
I watched with a contractor friend. He said, Where are the redneck musicians, where are the white football players? Not to reach my friend, who's committed: but to reach the undecided. He said his mother visited his aunt in the nursing home and the aunt said, If Obama gets in there will be tents on the White House lawn and graffiti on the walls. Like a NY subway car. That stuff's out there. I thought a lot of the imagery of the night played into the hands of the racists. Stevie Wonder. Will.I.am, whoever he is. They kept showing racial diversity in the crowd, even guys with turbans. I thought of the '92 Republican convention, in Houston, when the triumphal rightwing nuts were out of step with America. We are exulting today, progressives, lefties, because we're finally proud to be Americans (yes I admit it)… but how does that play? The speech got Obama past a lot of that multi-culti imagery, but my friend said he should have come out in a Nascar uniform and shaken up a quart of Bud and sprayed it. Maybe that's next…
I agree about the greatness of the speech, and about the success that Obama-Biden should have. But, David Brooks came on PBS moments after the address and talked about what a poor job it was, reminding me of three things: (1) mainstream media is going to make it a close race come hell or high water, out of its vested financial interest in marketing election news; (2) corrupt pollsters will generate whatever source materials are needed by MSM in order to skew public perceptions about the election trends; and (3) the voting process and the vote-counting process are both very corruptible in this high tech, low ethics age.
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Aloha ~~~ Ozzie Maland ~~~ San Diego
The reason this speech was so great was that it left a message that the media won't be able to tear down. They keep bullshitting about the "Obama's patriotism problem" or "the Democrats' weak foreign policy," fabrications that appear real only because of their constant repetition. Now they'll be free to talk about that stuff for as long as they want to, but anyone who watched Obama's speech will remember that they're lying.
i am going to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and vote democrat for the first time in my life.
i was going to use my vote to show my disgust for what used to be my party and vote for Barr, but after the speech tonight i am going to vote for Obama simply because i do not want any more neocon repubs to have the reign of power…under them i fear for my rights as an american….tonight i was told of a stunt the tsa pulled at the philly airport where they pulled up a table near the gates in an area where the passengers had already gone through the mandatory search, and started staring down passengers glaring at them as they passed until he spotted one guy whom he told that he needed to be searched again.
the psychological intimidation is part of the security state's plan to train the sheep not to bleet, but to obey.
Go Obama.
be the nightmare the neocons think you are.
'I think he's won this.'
I'm with Ozzie Maland – I'll believe it when I see it. ESS and Diebold may have the final word.
It wouldn't be the first time.
I'm with Samuel Burke.
Nascar uniform, my ass. Your friend is a putz.
william pfaff over at truthdig…
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080828_cleaning_up_after_bush/
Sen. Joseph Biden, according to the analysts, was made the Democratic vice presidential nominee because he knows everything about foreign policy. But everything that he knows about foreign policy is just what everybody else in Washington knows and thinks, and would never dream of questioning. There’s the problem.
An Obama-Biden administration would lower the rhetoric of the war on terror and enter global negotiations with Iran. It would emphasize the common interest of the U.S. and Iran in the stabilization of Iraq and Afghanistan. It would acknowledge the political and social importance of Hamas and Hezbollah in the real world.
It would start over again with Israel-Palestine negotiations. Those backing the Obama candidacy talk about a “New Marshall Plan” for the Middle East (resembling Condoleezza Rice’s proposals last month in Foreign Affairs), offering a “generational” program to lift the Middle East “from misery” and make it democratic, pro-American, and friendly to Israel. Alas, we have heard all that before; the United States is incapable of doing it; and the problem of the Middle East isn’t money.
The leaders of such a new administration would negotiate with American allies rather than blackmail and bully them. They would resume good relations with international organizations and make good-faith use of them. They would protect the sovereignty of Georgia and Ukraine. They would be firm with Russia. They would protect Western energy sources. They will fight injustice wherever they find it, even if that means more war. They will make a better world. Good luck to them.
justin raimondo at antiwar….
link to antiwar.com
Think peace is going to break out when the multi-culti messiah puts his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office? Well, I hate to disappoint all you loyal Democrats – and optimistic sorts – out there, but you had better think again ….
Biden's connections to the region are suspicious, to say the least. When lobbyist Stephen Payne was caught on tape saying he could arrange for the rehabilitation of a certain Central Asian ex-dictator for a hefty "donation" to the Bush library, he also mentioned that Biden could be brought along – presumably for a price. Bruce Ettinger, formerly Biden's director of legislative affairs, is Payne's business partner.
Biden's dubious involvement in the politics of the region is underscored by his most recent moral crusade: a bid, in tandem with the Heritage Foundation and other neoconservative groups in Washington, to publicize the plight of "democrats" in the oil-rich nation of Kazakhstan. His recent letter to the President of that country, chiding him for his country's lack of democracy, may have something to do with Kazakhstan's recent decision to consider pumping its oil through Russian pipelines, rather than through the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan route that U.S. and British investors have such a major stake in.
i am not looking to be led…i just want to keep my rights to live freely and not be told what to do or how to do it by elitist governors of the masses….just to live a responsible and conscientious life guided by the constitution and bill of rights bequeathed to us by the masters of divided powers who feared tyrany more than death.
no more and no less.
link to lewrockwell.com
"A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar."
~ H. L. Mencken
July 2, 2008, Barack Obama spoke in Colorado Springs, CO: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Like all democrats, BO has, in the words of the great anti-democrat, Albert Jay Nock, "a monstrous itch for changing people." Mobilizing masses of disaffected youths into paramilitary units like those in fascist Italy and national-socialist Germany is a hallmark of all great democrats like Hitler and Mussolini.
An unseasonable chill should have spread through in the old bones of America after Barack spoke. Nothing much happened. Only the usual pro-liberty suspects complained. Few others seemed to notice. The Mob didn’t seem to hear the rattling of slaves’ chains in Barry’s promise. If they did, they didn’t care.
BO sends us two messages: one, our military is unreliable; two, we need to replicate this unreliable creature in the domestic arena. Being a civilian national security force it will, of course, be totally "volunteer."
Democratic militaries are by nature unreliable. They have as their means "total war" to the end of total and unconditional defeat. Its consequent goals are subjugation, dominance, and annihilation. Yes, creating such a beast in the domestic arena makes good sense to the democratic total Statist.
And, by the way Barry, just what are your "national security objectives’? Who internally will be the enemy of your domestic total war? Who to subjugate? Who to dominate? Who to annihilate?
youtube mccaain ad on this page over at lewrockwell…obama the antisemite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhH2q6h7_Ow&eurl=link to lewrockwell.com
obama, the safety of israel….obama cant be trusted with our neocolonialist fascist project.
mccain is our man.
Evidently Obama went with the Washington insider. McCain is going with the woman. He ran the largest squadron in the navy. Sarah Palin is a successful popular governor. Obama gives a great speech.
BTW On what Obama kept saying is the key seminal test, what sets the "Black messiah" apart from all others. Was the war. Which Biden voted FOR!!!!!!!!
I usually try to keep profanity out of my own comments, but fuck NASCAR! When the fuck did driving in a circle become a sport? Shut that down, and I bet gas prices go down by a dime.
Sword,
If you vote for McCain, you will voting with approximately 35% of other voters.
Its a landslide for Obama if Palin is in fact nominated.