Comments on: Steve Walt’s Restoration Has Begun http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54640 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54640 <p>Walt's restoration will only occur if he pursues credible theses, and using language carefully.</p> Walt's restoration will only occur if he pursues credible theses, and using language carefully.

]]> By: charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54641 charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54641 <p>Certainly; he can use Witty's posts as a model of clarity and credibility.</p> Certainly; he can use Witty's posts as a model of clarity and credibility.

]]> By: charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54642 charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54642 <p>Witty, let me ask you a simple question: What would you have done as a young (non-Jewish) German in 1939? When you answer, please keep in mind that it is 1939, not 2008. </p> Witty, let me ask you a simple question: What would you have done as a young (non-Jewish) German in 1939? When you answer, please keep in mind that it is 1939, not 2008.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54643 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54643 <p>I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.</p> I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54644 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54644 <p>I disagree with your opening phrase, that Walt/Mearsheimer's thesis is becoming conventional wisdom.</p> <p>What specifically are you referring to?</p> <p>They made a number of points, with conflicting implications.</p> <p>The most suggestive was that the Israel Lobby "distorted" American foreign policy. The word "distort" indicates that there is some "natural" foreign policy, a static definition.</p> <p>American policy is the result of dialog, dialectic, same as any other.</p> <p>If debate was suppressed, why not hold the suppressors accountable for that: the republican Congress, and the republican administration heads.</p> I disagree with your opening phrase, that Walt/Mearsheimer's thesis is becoming conventional wisdom.

What specifically are you referring to?

They made a number of points, with conflicting implications.

The most suggestive was that the Israel Lobby "distorted" American foreign policy. The word "distort" indicates that there is some "natural" foreign policy, a static definition.

American policy is the result of dialog, dialectic, same as any other.

If debate was suppressed, why not hold the suppressors accountable for that: the republican Congress, and the republican administration heads.

]]> By: American http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54645 American Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54645 <p>"Complete federal funding would certainly signal a death knell to the lobbying industry, but it is highly unlikely that it could muster sufficient support to pass Congress."</p> <p>Well we know the answer to getting federal funding thru congress....BWTTGASO.<br /> Or wait till the lobbies turn Washington to ashes anyway.</p> "Complete federal funding would certainly signal a death knell to the lobbying industry, but it is highly unlikely that it could muster sufficient support to pass Congress."

Well we know the answer to getting federal funding thru congress….BWTTGASO.
Or wait till the lobbies turn Washington to ashes anyway.

]]> By: Duscany http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54646 Duscany Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54646 <p>"The most suggestive was that the Israel Lobby "distorted" American foreign policy. The word "distort" indicates that there is some "natural" foreign policy, a static definition.</p> <p>"American policy is the result of dialog, dialectic, same as any other."</p> <p>Yes, but in the absence of the the Israel lobby our government would put the interests of its own citizens ahead of those of Israel.</p> "The most suggestive was that the Israel Lobby "distorted" American foreign policy. The word "distort" indicates that there is some "natural" foreign policy, a static definition.

"American policy is the result of dialog, dialectic, same as any other."

Yes, but in the absence of the the Israel lobby our government would put the interests of its own citizens ahead of those of Israel.

]]> By: charles Keating http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54647 charles Keating Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54647 <p>Re: "Witty, let me ask you a simple question: What would you have done as a young (non-Jewish) German in 1939? When you answer, please keep in mind that it is 1939, not 2008."</p> <p>Posted by: charles Keating | August 12, 2008 at 01:56 PM</p> <p>"I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about."</p> <p>Posted by: Richard Witty | August 12, 2008 at 02:27 PM</p> <p><br /> ------</p> <p>Does anyone need anymore to see what type of human is Richard Witty? If not, go, send your sons and daughters of to the Middle East to keep this type of human alive. I'm sure he would not give anything for you or your children... But, go ahead, that's the American Dream.</p> Re: "Witty, let me ask you a simple question: What would you have done as a young (non-Jewish) German in 1939? When you answer, please keep in mind that it is 1939, not 2008."

Posted by: charles Keating | August 12, 2008 at 01:56 PM

"I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about."

Posted by: Richard Witty | August 12, 2008 at 02:27 PM

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Does anyone need anymore to see what type of human is Richard Witty? If not, go, send your sons and daughters of to the Middle East to keep this type of human alive. I'm sure he would not give anything for you or your children… But, go ahead, that's the American Dream.

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54648 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54648 <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/06/judaism.secondworldwar" rel="nofollow">The Sins of their fathers</a></p> <p>Interesting Charles, thanks. A name to watch out for: Tanya Gold.</p> The Sins of their fathers

Interesting Charles, thanks. A name to watch out for: Tanya Gold.

]]> By: samuel burke http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html/comment-page-1#comment-54649 samuel burke Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/08/12/steve-walts-restoration-has-begun.html#comment-54649 <p>walt and mearsheimer and Alexander Solzhenitsyn....</p> <p>http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis119.html<br /> Many Western liberal intellectuals were infatuated with Stalin’s brute power and didn’t want to know about their idol’s crimes. The French leftist thinker Jean-Paul Sartre even refused to admit the gulag existed.</p> <p>Revealing the truth about the Allies’ role in supporting Stalin and his crimes would undermine the whole bogus mythology of World War II that has become the state religion for the political right in North America, Britain and Australia.</p> <p>Those who considered the Jewish Holocaust a unique historical crime were not eager to bring attention to Stalin’s genocide lest it diminish or dilute their own people’s suffering.</p> walt and mearsheimer and Alexander Solzhenitsyn….

http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis119.html
Many Western liberal intellectuals were infatuated with Stalin’s brute power and didn’t want to know about their idol’s crimes. The French leftist thinker Jean-Paul Sartre even refused to admit the gulag existed.

Revealing the truth about the Allies’ role in supporting Stalin and his crimes would undermine the whole bogus mythology of World War II that has become the state religion for the political right in North America, Britain and Australia.

Those who considered the Jewish Holocaust a unique historical crime were not eager to bring attention to Stalin’s genocide lest it diminish or dilute their own people’s suffering.

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