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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/why-were-headed-for-a-one-state-solution.html/comment-page-1#comment-54194</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What does that post have to do with a one-state solution?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are stresses associated with every possible solution proposed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With the one-state solution on the table, most likely Phil would start running headlines stating &quot;Why we&#039;re heading towards a two-state solutions&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does that post have to do with a one-state solution?</p>
<p>There are stresses associated with every possible solution proposed.</p>
<p>With the one-state solution on the table, most likely Phil would start running headlines stating &quot;Why we&#39;re heading towards a two-state solutions&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/why-were-headed-for-a-one-state-solution.html/comment-page-1#comment-54195</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its time to champion the rule of law, with the American bill of rights (except the 4th, which should be repealed) and 14th amendment as models.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Equal due process under the law&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, we have to live up to it.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its time to champion the rule of law, with the American bill of rights (except the 4th, which should be repealed) and 14th amendment as models.</p>
<p>&quot;Equal due process under the law&quot;.</p>
<p>And, we have to live up to it.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;flounder??? Why not, says the herring.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&quot;With the one-state solution on the table, most likely Phil would start running headlines stating &quot;Why we&#039;re heading towards a two-state solutions&quot;.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;very, very unlikely. Maybe your Phil, but not the Phil we read.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>flounder??? Why not, says the herring.</p>
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<p>&quot;With the one-state solution on the table, most likely Phil would start running headlines stating &quot;Why we&#39;re heading towards a two-state solutions&quot;.&quot;</p>
<p>very, very unlikely. Maybe your Phil, but not the Phil we read.</p>
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		<title>By: charles  Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles  Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, let&#039;s repeal our Fourth Amendment and give the Palestinians a state that&#039;s not a state. Then we can all live in Georgia or Israel.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, let&#39;s repeal our Fourth Amendment and give the Palestinians a state that&#39;s not a state. Then we can all live in Georgia or Israel.  </p>
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		<title>By: MRW.</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Years ago I heard a great definition for something that is intangible in terms of physical form, but deadly in terms of experience: Psychic Murder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Psychic Murder is when you push someone away and pull him (or her) to you at the same time, always with great emotion over something emotional to both parties. It debilitates the spirit. It poisons any relationship. It destroys you physically over time because you can&#039;t identify the culprit activity accurately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All these peace proposals I&#039;ve heard from Israel since the middle 90s are psychic murder. It&#039;s always Israel who is setting the terms. It gets tiring to listen to this great ME democracy, this paragon of freedom and fairness, this great hard-done-by for 60 years full of IQs greater than any other living group on the planet, these Chosen Ones, fail to achieve and perform the basic diplomacy and negotiation skills of even a nascent nation state.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I heard a great definition for something that is intangible in terms of physical form, but deadly in terms of experience: Psychic Murder.</p>
<p>Psychic Murder is when you push someone away and pull him (or her) to you at the same time, always with great emotion over something emotional to both parties. It debilitates the spirit. It poisons any relationship. It destroys you physically over time because you can&#39;t identify the culprit activity accurately.</p>
<p>All these peace proposals I&#39;ve heard from Israel since the middle 90s are psychic murder. It&#39;s always Israel who is setting the terms. It gets tiring to listen to this great ME democracy, this paragon of freedom and fairness, this great hard-done-by for 60 years full of IQs greater than any other living group on the planet, these Chosen Ones, fail to achieve and perform the basic diplomacy and negotiation skills of even a nascent nation state.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW.</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/why-were-headed-for-a-one-state-solution.html/comment-page-1#comment-54199</link>
		<dc:creator>MRW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Phil&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you could alter the template of your TypePad (?) so the&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Posted by: MRW. &#124; August 18, 2008 at 01:34 PM&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;line was bold, it would help tremendously with readability.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Phil</b>,</p>
<p>If you could alter the template of your TypePad (?) so the</p>
<p><i>Posted by: MRW. | August 18, 2008 at 01:34 PM</i></p>
<p>line was bold, it would help tremendously with readability.</p>
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		<title>By: syvanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>syvanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This has everything to do with the one state solution.  It goes like this. If the two state solution fails then we are left, by default, with the one state solution.  No Palestinian leader can accept the Wall as its Western border or the inclusion of East Jeurusalem into Israel. They simply cannot. All actions by the Israelis since the beginning of the Oslo process, has been to use these negotiations to achieve their goals.  There has been no exception to this.  Furthermore, through the aid of the Lobby, US policy backs Israel&#039;s actions in fact, if not in word.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Israel has been relentlessly pursuing this end for the last 16 years.  What Phil is illustrating here is that they are doing so this month as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Therefore, Israel will be responsible for the West Bank Arab population.  They have to decide how to deal with them.  Putting them in cages is the current policy, but most rational observers believe that after a few decades of that treatment, world opinion will probably force Israel to free its prisoners.  About 40% of the Israeli public (and more importantly, likely a majority of the officers in intelligence and the IDF, support the transfer option. Like Benny Morris believes, they should do now what they failed to do in 1948.  This option would not have support outside of Israel, probably even the US would object.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See, there is really no other option.  It is one state or two states.  If the Palestinians had any political sense they would give up on the two state solution for the simple reason they have lost that one.  Sharon&#039;s facts on the ground are the reality. The Palestinians should adopt a political platform that the ANC found effective in S Africa.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has everything to do with the one state solution.  It goes like this. If the two state solution fails then we are left, by default, with the one state solution.  No Palestinian leader can accept the Wall as its Western border or the inclusion of East Jeurusalem into Israel. They simply cannot. All actions by the Israelis since the beginning of the Oslo process, has been to use these negotiations to achieve their goals.  There has been no exception to this.  Furthermore, through the aid of the Lobby, US policy backs Israel&#39;s actions in fact, if not in word.</p>
<p>Israel has been relentlessly pursuing this end for the last 16 years.  What Phil is illustrating here is that they are doing so this month as well.</p>
<p>Therefore, Israel will be responsible for the West Bank Arab population.  They have to decide how to deal with them.  Putting them in cages is the current policy, but most rational observers believe that after a few decades of that treatment, world opinion will probably force Israel to free its prisoners.  About 40% of the Israeli public (and more importantly, likely a majority of the officers in intelligence and the IDF, support the transfer option. Like Benny Morris believes, they should do now what they failed to do in 1948.  This option would not have support outside of Israel, probably even the US would object.</p>
<p>See, there is really no other option.  It is one state or two states.  If the Palestinians had any political sense they would give up on the two state solution for the simple reason they have lost that one.  Sharon&#39;s facts on the ground are the reality. The Palestinians should adopt a political platform that the ANC found effective in S Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK MRW, I&#039;ll bite. Obviously this is all Israel&#039;s fault. Exclusively. I&#039;ll go with that. Ergo Israel can wind this up by the weekend. Say you were PM of Israel. All right genius. Tell me the plan. Lets hear it. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK MRW, I&#39;ll bite. Obviously this is all Israel&#39;s fault. Exclusively. I&#39;ll go with that. Ergo Israel can wind this up by the weekend. Say you were PM of Israel. All right genius. Tell me the plan. Lets hear it. </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/why-were-headed-for-a-one-state-solution.html/comment-page-1#comment-54202</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It took 15 years for the Palestinians to argue for the importance of the two-state solution, leading up to Oslo and the subsequent non-binding Geneva agreements.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its taken another 15 years for the Israeli leadership to acknowledge that it is the best of imperfect solutions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The options on the table include:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. One state solution comprised of strong Jewish majority, comprising a Zionist state, after forcefully removing most Palestinians entirely from the land.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. One sharia state comprised of strong Islamic majority, after forcefully removing most Jews entirely from the land.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3. One primarily civil state comprised of a majority formed from coalition of civilist parties. (Not from Likud, not from Hamas, not from Israeli religious parties, not from Palestinian militant parties)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4. Two states&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
3 is possible, but a long way away, and not formed by condemnation but by reaching out to the other.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took 15 years for the Palestinians to argue for the importance of the two-state solution, leading up to Oslo and the subsequent non-binding Geneva agreements.</p>
<p>Its taken another 15 years for the Israeli leadership to acknowledge that it is the best of imperfect solutions.</p>
<p>The options on the table include:</p>
<p>1. One state solution comprised of strong Jewish majority, comprising a Zionist state, after forcefully removing most Palestinians entirely from the land.</p>
<p>2. One sharia state comprised of strong Islamic majority, after forcefully removing most Jews entirely from the land.</p>
<p>3. One primarily civil state comprised of a majority formed from coalition of civilist parties. (Not from Likud, not from Hamas, not from Israeli religious parties, not from Palestinian militant parties)</p>
<p>4. Two states</p>
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3 is possible, but a long way away, and not formed by condemnation but by reaching out to the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva Smagacz</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/08/why-were-headed-for-a-one-state-solution.html/comment-page-1#comment-54203</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva Smagacz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A good start to being able to deliver anything at all, rather than sweet nothing, Israel could practice enforcing the rulings of its own Supreme Court, lest, at least on the topic of anything to do with Occupied Palestinian Territories, it may become as quint and obsolete as International Court of Justice or Geneva Conventions.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good start to being able to deliver anything at all, rather than sweet nothing, Israel could practice enforcing the rulings of its own Supreme Court, lest, at least on the topic of anything to do with Occupied Palestinian Territories, it may become as quint and obsolete as International Court of Justice or Geneva Conventions.</p>
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