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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Daily Kos&#8217; Denies the Existence of the Israel Lobby</title>
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		<title>By: jonathan ekman</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan ekman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The cowardice of the left in addressing the&lt;br /&gt;
problem of the Zionist Power Configuration&lt;br /&gt;
and its operations in this country is repugnant beyond words.  It is further proof&lt;br /&gt;
that elite opinion, whether on the left or on the right, has been largely Judaized.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cowardice of the left in addressing the<br />
problem of the Zionist Power Configuration<br />
and its operations in this country is repugnant beyond words.  It is further proof<br />
that elite opinion, whether on the left or on the right, has been largely Judaized.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The elitist two-party regime has united around parasitic bankers and parasitic Zionists. That’s no coincidence; that&#039;s mentality.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The elitist two-party regime has united around parasitic bankers and parasitic Zionists. That’s no coincidence; that&#39;s mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t read the Daily Kos so I don&#039;t know what they say or don&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My impression of the press like New York Times and Washington Post is that they&#039;ve got it right, right message, right proportion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;br /&gt;
As I&#039;ve said many times, you are on a side show, and driving your career into a cul-de-sac.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its an innaccurate assessment, a poor judgement of weight of importance, and accomplishes nothing politically or professionally.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t read the Daily Kos so I don&#39;t know what they say or don&#39;t.</p>
<p>My impression of the press like New York Times and Washington Post is that they&#39;ve got it right, right message, right proportion.</p>
<p>Phil,<br />
As I&#39;ve said many times, you are on a side show, and driving your career into a cul-de-sac.</p>
<p>Its an innaccurate assessment, a poor judgement of weight of importance, and accomplishes nothing politically or professionally.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Counterpunch.org and their newsletter of the same name is a leftist media org, and they publish articles about Israeli politics and their atrocious treatment of Palestinians almost daily. Daily Kos is a moderately liberal org and avoids any critical mention of Israel, its politics, its expansion, its oppression and the ungodly amounts of military aid given to it by the US. It is the moderates who will not broach the subject of Israel&#039;s crimes, not leftists.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Counterpunch.org and their newsletter of the same name is a leftist media org, and they publish articles about Israeli politics and their atrocious treatment of Palestinians almost daily. Daily Kos is a moderately liberal org and avoids any critical mention of Israel, its politics, its expansion, its oppression and the ungodly amounts of military aid given to it by the US. It is the moderates who will not broach the subject of Israel&#39;s crimes, not leftists.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leftists suffer from the parasite mentality, too. What is Communism but a very narrow elite of top Party members (usually well under 10% of a country) forcefully extracting the material resources of a country necessary for survival and distributing them to insiders? Meanwhile, average people are exploited, starved, beaten and terrorized by the State. And all of this is done under the guise of attaining social justice and egalitarianism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At least the Capitalist parasites don&#039;t pretend to be humanitarians. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think Americans are getting sick and tired of being forced to choose between the lesser of two profound evils. And “moderate” left-liberalism/socialism isn&#039;t splitting the difference, as our current corrupt, Big Government, Big Money, warmongering, Zionist, two-party regime proves.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leftists suffer from the parasite mentality, too. What is Communism but a very narrow elite of top Party members (usually well under 10% of a country) forcefully extracting the material resources of a country necessary for survival and distributing them to insiders? Meanwhile, average people are exploited, starved, beaten and terrorized by the State. And all of this is done under the guise of attaining social justice and egalitarianism.</p>
<p>At least the Capitalist parasites don&#39;t pretend to be humanitarians. </p>
<p>I think Americans are getting sick and tired of being forced to choose between the lesser of two profound evils. And “moderate” left-liberalism/socialism isn&#39;t splitting the difference, as our current corrupt, Big Government, Big Money, warmongering, Zionist, two-party regime proves.</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As I said before, this particularly noxious political pathology has a name: LDS (Lobby Denial Syndrom). Like most societal-derived pathologies, LDS can be classified as a meme, and has more in common with fundamentalism than with right/left divisions. Like all viral infections, it can be triggered by mutations of otherwise healthy genes, but once triggered it spreads rapidly, taking over autonomous functioning of synapses. Interestingly, the origins of the LDS meme can be traced to overly aggressive treatment regimens designed to cure its near-opposite - namely, good old anti-semitism.  Much like over-use of antibiotics can bring about new antibiotics-resistant strains, so the LDS may well be a case of over-medication administered too liberally and without adequate controls - possibly in a desperate attempt to contain the old scourge of anti-semitism. What could have happened is that the original meme mutated and ended up infecting quite  indiscriminantly far larger segments of society than the original disease ever did. Not only that, it seems to have morphed into specially virulent form in the one segment previously nearly-immune to the anti-semitism disease, ergo, the jews. Alas, no amount of education - whether through extra Talmudic studies, the acquisition of multiple degrees/amassing of accomplishments and/or judicous application of reason - has proven effective so far in combatting the disease itself, though there were some anecdotal indications that the administration of generous dosages of reason and/or Talmudic wisdom may alleviate some of the worst symptoms. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alas, so far, the prognosis is not hopeful - as evidenced here by the interesting Witty case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And a comment to Ed: I believe that you are on the trail of one of the suspected contributors to the worst recent outbreak of  LDS. A number of studies have now come out showing that money has the effect of suppressing immune system further. In fact, there are those who suspect that it was the confluence of  capital and predisposition to exceptionalism that contributed to the current outbreaks. It is interesting to note that the worst strain uncovered so far - neoconianism - germinated in the blissful isolation of think tanks funded and cared for by the financially well endowed, where the &quot;Sink or Win&quot; mentality was allowed to grow undisturbed. It is certainly unfortunate that 100&#039;s of thousands of Iraqis were sacrificed before serious efforts to identify the disease even started. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before, this particularly noxious political pathology has a name: LDS (Lobby Denial Syndrom). Like most societal-derived pathologies, LDS can be classified as a meme, and has more in common with fundamentalism than with right/left divisions. Like all viral infections, it can be triggered by mutations of otherwise healthy genes, but once triggered it spreads rapidly, taking over autonomous functioning of synapses. Interestingly, the origins of the LDS meme can be traced to overly aggressive treatment regimens designed to cure its near-opposite &#8211; namely, good old anti-semitism.  Much like over-use of antibiotics can bring about new antibiotics-resistant strains, so the LDS may well be a case of over-medication administered too liberally and without adequate controls &#8211; possibly in a desperate attempt to contain the old scourge of anti-semitism. What could have happened is that the original meme mutated and ended up infecting quite  indiscriminantly far larger segments of society than the original disease ever did. Not only that, it seems to have morphed into specially virulent form in the one segment previously nearly-immune to the anti-semitism disease, ergo, the jews. Alas, no amount of education &#8211; whether through extra Talmudic studies, the acquisition of multiple degrees/amassing of accomplishments and/or judicous application of reason &#8211; has proven effective so far in combatting the disease itself, though there were some anecdotal indications that the administration of generous dosages of reason and/or Talmudic wisdom may alleviate some of the worst symptoms. </p>
<p>Alas, so far, the prognosis is not hopeful &#8211; as evidenced here by the interesting Witty case.</p>
<p>And a comment to Ed: I believe that you are on the trail of one of the suspected contributors to the worst recent outbreak of  LDS. A number of studies have now come out showing that money has the effect of suppressing immune system further. In fact, there are those who suspect that it was the confluence of  capital and predisposition to exceptionalism that contributed to the current outbreaks. It is interesting to note that the worst strain uncovered so far &#8211; neoconianism &#8211; germinated in the blissful isolation of think tanks funded and cared for by the financially well endowed, where the &quot;Sink or Win&quot; mentality was allowed to grow undisturbed. It is certainly unfortunate that 100&#39;s of thousands of Iraqis were sacrificed before serious efforts to identify the disease even started. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;My impression of the press like New York Times and Washington Post is that they&#039;ve got it right, right message, right proportion.&quot; -- Richard Witty&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After my recent prefrontal lobotomy, I too find it strangely comforting to let the Times and the WaPo do the intellectual driving, whilst I sit in the back seat smiling and gazing placidly out the window.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As long as they don&#039;t criticize Israel, that is. Then I scream and grimace and slobber on the window, and the attendants give me a shot and I go to sleep.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Didn&#039;t I meet you in the recovery group?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;My impression of the press like New York Times and Washington Post is that they&#39;ve got it right, right message, right proportion.&quot; &#8212; Richard Witty</p>
<p>After my recent prefrontal lobotomy, I too find it strangely comforting to let the Times and the WaPo do the intellectual driving, whilst I sit in the back seat smiling and gazing placidly out the window.</p>
<p>As long as they don&#39;t criticize Israel, that is. Then I scream and grimace and slobber on the window, and the attendants give me a shot and I go to sleep.</p>
<p>Didn&#39;t I meet you in the recovery group?</p>
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		<title>By: CLWilliams</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLWilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe you&#039;ve got it right.  And it&#039;s got to be discussed, not swept under the rug.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll admit to having been foolish to think that there was going to be a more open discussion of the lobby as a result of Walt and Mearsheimer&#039;s book, but it appears to have died on the vine. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just as there is a sociology of knowledge (perspectives taken on an issue are the result of positions within a social hierarchy) there is also a sociology of silence.  One thread within, would look for what was not said when it would have logically followed and try to understand whether or how this lapse was determined. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is very fruitful territory...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>I believe you&#39;ve got it right.  And it&#39;s got to be discussed, not swept under the rug.  </p>
<p>I&#39;ll admit to having been foolish to think that there was going to be a more open discussion of the lobby as a result of Walt and Mearsheimer&#39;s book, but it appears to have died on the vine. </p>
<p>Just as there is a sociology of knowledge (perspectives taken on an issue are the result of positions within a social hierarchy) there is also a sociology of silence.  One thread within, would look for what was not said when it would have logically followed and try to understand whether or how this lapse was determined. </p>
<p>This is very fruitful territory&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dana:&lt;br /&gt;
You really have to get laid more. You&#039;ve got too much time on your hands. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana:<br />
You really have to get laid more. You&#39;ve got too much time on your hands. </p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/daily-kos-denies-the-existence-of-the-israel-lobby.html/comment-page-1#comment-50700</link>
		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why, SOG - did my little diagnostic hit the mark?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not to worry - there&#039;s still hope for a cure.......there is, in fact, an ongoing research study of possible antidotes to LDS. Would you like to sign up?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, SOG &#8211; did my little diagnostic hit the mark?</p>
<p>Not to worry &#8211; there&#39;s still hope for a cure&#8230;&#8230;.there is, in fact, an ongoing research study of possible antidotes to LDS. Would you like to sign up?</p>
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