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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How to keep perspective?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It applies to those that work for organizations like ADL that daily immerse themselves in the flip side of what you&#039;re seeing, though not in political scope.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no valid rationalization for cruelty, whether it originates from Zionist efforts or from Palestinian or other (including the left).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Justice is not achieved by removing injustice solely. If anything the removal of the injustice is a complement to the larger goal of improving life.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is necessary to study the actual politics of the conflict and not trivialize it in your own mind (or other intelligent people&#039;s) by equivalency with apartheid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The objective conditions and history are different, and require a different approach to solving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That there are common elements makes the simplistic analysis seductive, but not accurate, and therefore not effective.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to keep perspective?</p>
<p>It applies to those that work for organizations like ADL that daily immerse themselves in the flip side of what you&#39;re seeing, though not in political scope.</p>
<p>There is no valid rationalization for cruelty, whether it originates from Zionist efforts or from Palestinian or other (including the left).</p>
<p>Justice is not achieved by removing injustice solely. If anything the removal of the injustice is a complement to the larger goal of improving life.</p>
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It is necessary to study the actual politics of the conflict and not trivialize it in your own mind (or other intelligent people&#39;s) by equivalency with apartheid.</p>
<p>The objective conditions and history are different, and require a different approach to solving.</p>
<p>That there are common elements makes the simplistic analysis seductive, but not accurate, and therefore not effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is the goal, and how to get to that goal?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me the goal is a just peace, that affords both Israel and Palestine safety, distinct self-governance and good commercial, political and interpersonal relations.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the goal, and how to get to that goal?</p>
<p>For me the goal is a just peace, that affords both Israel and Palestine safety, distinct self-governance and good commercial, political and interpersonal relations.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/on-my-way-to-the-brooklyn-friends-meeting-house-last-night-for-a-presentation-on-a-palestinian-village-in-the-west-bank-that.html/comment-page-1#comment-50797</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was one of your better posts.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was one of your better posts.</p>
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		<title>By: face48</title>
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		<dc:creator>face48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, Witty was satiated by the obvious - that there are some courageous, committed Jews struggling against the diabolical machine of Israeli Zionism. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Philip, thanks for these reports. Some of us are too far afield to be able to join these events and find great value in your taking the time to attend and write these up. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The implication, in my reading, is clear - the two-state solution is a farce. Time to begin speaking practically about the only path that lies ahead. A difficult and perilous path; a shared polity for Jews and Arabs in historical Palestine. I have no illusions that this will be a happy or easy solution, but the longer we peddle the false impression that there is a &quot;peace process&quot; to pursue, the farther off true peace falls. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Keep the settlements in place, yes, and recognize that this issue needs a solution that reaches back to &#039;48 - including the right of return. Disband the PA, and begin the process of a civil rights movement leading to a federation or binational arrangement with security for both groups enshrined within the arrangements. Enforce this with US and UN oversight. Relegate Zionism to the history books.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Witty was satiated by the obvious &#8211; that there are some courageous, committed Jews struggling against the diabolical machine of Israeli Zionism. </p>
<p>Philip, thanks for these reports. Some of us are too far afield to be able to join these events and find great value in your taking the time to attend and write these up. </p>
<p>The implication, in my reading, is clear &#8211; the two-state solution is a farce. Time to begin speaking practically about the only path that lies ahead. A difficult and perilous path; a shared polity for Jews and Arabs in historical Palestine. I have no illusions that this will be a happy or easy solution, but the longer we peddle the false impression that there is a &quot;peace process&quot; to pursue, the farther off true peace falls. </p>
<p>Keep the settlements in place, yes, and recognize that this issue needs a solution that reaches back to &#39;48 &#8211; including the right of return. Disband the PA, and begin the process of a civil rights movement leading to a federation or binational arrangement with security for both groups enshrined within the arrangements. Enforce this with US and UN oversight. Relegate Zionism to the history books.  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This approach would relegate Palestine to the history books.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Israel is too important to Israelis and to world Jews to just walk away from.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Agitation may sound like fun to you, but to those affected by it is not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;South Africa was distant to most dissenters. Distant enough that they didn&#039;t see the abuses by apartheid and by anti-apartheid proponents.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It had a happy end.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Israel/Palestine is NOT parallel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Without serious commitment to fully accept the Jews that are there, and I mean fully and confidently, the single-state &quot;solution&quot; is dead. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ANYONE that quotes &quot;Zionism is racism&quot; rather than &quot;Zionism was a wonderful first step&quot; shits on their own effort.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally don&#039;t believe that dissent has the backbone, intelligence, nor compassion to undertake such a cathartic change.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its NOT outrage that makes peace. Its moral courage and commitment to follow through.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This approach would relegate Palestine to the history books.</p>
<p>Israel is too important to Israelis and to world Jews to just walk away from.</p>
<p>Agitation may sound like fun to you, but to those affected by it is not.</p>
<p>South Africa was distant to most dissenters. Distant enough that they didn&#39;t see the abuses by apartheid and by anti-apartheid proponents.</p>
<p>It had a happy end.</p>
<p>Israel/Palestine is NOT parallel.</p>
<p>Without serious commitment to fully accept the Jews that are there, and I mean fully and confidently, the single-state &quot;solution&quot; is dead. </p>
<p>ANYONE that quotes &quot;Zionism is racism&quot; rather than &quot;Zionism was a wonderful first step&quot; shits on their own effort.</p>
<p>I personally don&#39;t believe that dissent has the backbone, intelligence, nor compassion to undertake such a cathartic change.</p>
<p>Its NOT outrage that makes peace. Its moral courage and commitment to follow through.</p>
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		<title>By: David Frum</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Frum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course they aren&#039;t allowed to plan their towns!  Why let them plan for a real future when they&#039;re only going to be ethnically cleansed into Jordan as soon as the Expansionists can achieve it?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they aren&#39;t allowed to plan their towns!  Why let them plan for a real future when they&#39;re only going to be ethnically cleansed into Jordan as soon as the Expansionists can achieve it?</p>
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		<title>By: syvanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>syvanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RW wrote: &quot;There is no valid rationalization for cruelty, whether it originates from Zionist efforts or from Palestinian&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My what a humanist.  He was moved by this essay to express his opposition to Palestinian cruelty.  Yes I am sure that is the first thing that came to everyones mind.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RW wrote: &quot;There is no valid rationalization for cruelty, whether it originates from Zionist efforts or from Palestinian&quot;</p>
<p>My what a humanist.  He was moved by this essay to express his opposition to Palestinian cruelty.  Yes I am sure that is the first thing that came to everyones mind.</p>
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		<title>By: the Sword of Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Sword of Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Hannah Mermelstein has ugly in person has she is in her pictures?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Hannah Mermelstein has ugly in person has she is in her pictures?</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reading the passage below, I thought of our dear always present Richard. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;access to the court system.&quot; And because of international pressure, and court rulings, he says, in some instances the Israeli civil administration of Area C has actually come forward and said, We are not going to destroy this illegal village at this time. &lt;b&gt;&quot;They can build for a little while.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good, people like &lt;a href=&quot;http://eng.bimkom.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Smuel Groad/Bikom &lt;/a&gt;exist, and good they take the hard road, although it feels like tilting at windmills. Richard&#039;s constant demands to go  court under these conditions can be only considered as cynical. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Palestinians must be painfully aware of the mistrust audiences bring to their tales. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here admittedly Israelis help to bridge the discrepancy between our  utter horror and distrust to which we occasionally flee. &lt;a href=&quot;http://heathlander.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/mea-culpa/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This can&#039;t be true,&lt;/a&gt; is it?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the passage below, I thought of our dear always present Richard. </p>
<p><i>&quot;access to the court system.&quot; And because of international pressure, and court rulings, he says, in some instances the Israeli civil administration of Area C has actually come forward and said, We are not going to destroy this illegal village at this time. <b>&quot;They can build for a little while.&quot;</b></i></p>
<p>Good, people like <a href="http://eng.bimkom.org/" rel="nofollow">Smuel Groad/Bikom </a>exist, and good they take the hard road, although it feels like tilting at windmills. Richard&#39;s constant demands to go  court under these conditions can be only considered as cynical. </p>
<p>Palestinians must be painfully aware of the mistrust audiences bring to their tales. </p>
<p>Here admittedly Israelis help to bridge the discrepancy between our  utter horror and distrust to which we occasionally flee. <a href="http://heathlander.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/mea-culpa/" rel="nofollow">This can&#39;t be true,</a> is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Belmont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Belmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Sword of Gideon&quot; should be banned from Mondoweiss for that comment.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Sword of Gideon&quot; should be banned from Mondoweiss for that comment.</p>
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