Finally a mainstream organ has picked up on the Yale debate of last week that you read about here first– the Jerusalem Post, though it does so in a slightly distorted manner, saying Yale students voted to "end" the U.S.- Israel relationship, not just the "special" relationship. Note commenter/writer/poet Shalom Freedman, a visitor to my blog and to Commentary, saying of Laura Marcus, the member of the Yale Political Union who suggested inviting Mearsheimer to the school though she disagrees with him, that she has "made a negative contribution to the Jewish people." Another commenter says a vote for Obama is a "vote for the end of Israel." Sort of like the Republican Jewish Coalition saying Obama has the next holocaust up his sleeve. A little like my mother's friend who says that she would sooner vote for Hitler than Obama. Make a joyful noise!!! Shalom, I think it's arguable that Israel is hurting the Jewish people right now, inasmuch as it's become a nation that defies international law out of a sense of chosenness and U.S. proxiness. How good is that for the Jews?
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The "special" relationship could in fact mean ANY or very specific features, depending on how is talking and to whom they are talking.
Its upsettingly VAGUE, to the range prospective renunciation of all responsibilities (ala Ron Paul), to the Obama perspective which is to firmly commit to Israel's defense (but defined as defense, not as anything goes).
The comment of your mother's friend is ludicrous. What was the context that the statement was made?
I think its arguable that specific Israeli policies are hurting the character and reputation of the Jewish people. I think your statement that ISRAEL is hurting the Jewish people is close to your mother's friend's comments as far as being ludicrous.
Such are the pendulum swings of dissent.
"Any statement made in opposition to something that is bad judgement, must be good judgement." Bullshit.
Proxiness!!
as a non jew…what is most interesting to me here is seeing the views of jewish zionist expressed…the sheer hubris in the face of all the evidence of the crimes commited by israel is stupefying.
having commited atrocities in palestine since its inception and continnuing to commit them til this day, israel uses as their defense the deaths of the jews of europe. how truly pathetic and sad that all of you eat this shhit up.
the history of zonism during the war years is suspect….they the zionist showed no sympathy to the poor helpless jews of europe who fell prey to the national socialist in germany who were at war against the boshevik jews of russia and the communist leaning political jewish movements of its day.
the lack of sympathy showed by zionist to the jews of europe alone is sufficient enough for any decent man to shun these rebels ideology, but not for the zionist jews of the world…they bought the brooklyn bridge on this one.
zionism turned out to be all that the old rabbis predicted it would be, a curse to judaism and israeli zionism has turned into the religion of the jews.
keep worshiping your golden calf….ill just watch as the next chapter in the book approaches.
the universe has a way of righting itself.
http://jewsagainstzionism.com/
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Rosh Hayeshiva of Mesivta Rabbi Chaim Berlin – Kolel Gur Aryah
“Sadly, even in our own circles, the mold for shaping public opinion lies in the hands of the State of Israel. An appropriate example of this dangerous process of selectively "rewriting" history may be found in the extraordinary purging from the public record of all evidence of the culpability of the forerunners of the State in the tragedy of European Jewry, and the sub-situation in is place of factors inconsequential to the calamity which ultimately occurred. ”