Comments on: ‘I’ve Lost My Analytical Center of Gravity’ http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: jonathan ekman http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50259 jonathan ekman Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50259 <p>The Jewish narrative of victimization will never be abandoned because it is necessary<br /> as a means of pathologizing discourse about<br /> Jewish wealth, Jewish power and Jewish<br /> influence. Zionist supremacy cannot exist<br /> without the illusion that Jews are the eternal victims of the goyim.</p> The Jewish narrative of victimization will never be abandoned because it is necessary
as a means of pathologizing discourse about
Jewish wealth, Jewish power and Jewish
influence. Zionist supremacy cannot exist
without the illusion that Jews are the eternal victims of the goyim.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50260 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50260 <p>Is there a subprime mortgage analogy here?</p> Is there a subprime mortgage analogy here?

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50261 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50261 <p>Perhaps the leveraging is getting out of hand?</p> Perhaps the leveraging is getting out of hand?

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50262 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50262 <p>From your title, I was hoping that you would discuss your own confusion, rather than again ridicule and condemn others'.</p> <p>You were right when you described Allison's presentation as propagandistic.</p> <p>You were wrong to describe the conflict as an "oppression" (there certainly are important elements of one-way harms). The reality is that it is a complex conflict with multiple scales, and to ignore that is to be intentionally obtuse.</p> From your title, I was hoping that you would discuss your own confusion, rather than again ridicule and condemn others'.

You were right when you described Allison's presentation as propagandistic.

You were wrong to describe the conflict as an "oppression" (there certainly are important elements of one-way harms). The reality is that it is a complex conflict with multiple scales, and to ignore that is to be intentionally obtuse.

]]> By: Tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50263 Tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50263 <p>US military and economic aid to Israel, combined with the nationalistic hostility of American immigrants to Israel, prevents Israelis from living peacefully with their neighbors within the legal borders established by the UN in 1947. Americans should insist military and economic aid to Israel be suspended until Israel removes itself from the occupied territories outside those borders. The US makes a big issue out of defending the state of Israel, but it should only help defend Israel's legal borders, and ought to provide the same amount of aid defending Palestine's borders.</p> US military and economic aid to Israel, combined with the nationalistic hostility of American immigrants to Israel, prevents Israelis from living peacefully with their neighbors within the legal borders established by the UN in 1947. Americans should insist military and economic aid to Israel be suspended until Israel removes itself from the occupied territories outside those borders. The US makes a big issue out of defending the state of Israel, but it should only help defend Israel's legal borders, and ought to provide the same amount of aid defending Palestine's borders.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50264 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50264 <p>"You were right when you described Allison's presentation as propagandistic."</p> <p>Assuming it was, that's a tiny droplet deflected off the rim of the <br /> giant propaganda bucket Americans have had poured on their heads<br /> by our media and Hollywood since Exodus, which Goebbels would have been proud of.</p> "You were right when you described Allison's presentation as propagandistic."

Assuming it was, that's a tiny droplet deflected off the rim of the
giant propaganda bucket Americans have had poured on their heads
by our media and Hollywood since Exodus, which Goebbels would have been proud of.

]]> By: Eva Smagacz http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50265 Eva Smagacz Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50265 <p>Richard,</p> <p>What you call "important elements of one-way harms" I call brutal and de-humanizing occupation.</p> Richard,

What you call "important elements of one-way harms" I call brutal and de-humanizing occupation.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50266 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50266 <p>Eva,<br /> I call it wrong.</p> <p>And, I also call the continued state of war between states that have not yet recognized Israel, as wrong.</p> <p>And, I also call the continued arming of Hezbollah wrong.</p> <p>And, I contest that Olmert or Livni negotiating with Abbas, is the quickest and most effective means to change the current state.</p> <p>You want to change things, remind them that Palestinians are human beings, over and over again until it succeeds, NOT that Israelis are demons.</p> Eva,
I call it wrong.

And, I also call the continued state of war between states that have not yet recognized Israel, as wrong.

And, I also call the continued arming of Hezbollah wrong.

And, I contest that Olmert or Livni negotiating with Abbas, is the quickest and most effective means to change the current state.

You want to change things, remind them that Palestinians are human beings, over and over again until it succeeds, NOT that Israelis are demons.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50267 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50267 <p>Yeah, keep reminding the light to the Gentiles that Palestinians are human beings The influentIal Jews must have lost their batteries.</p> Yeah, keep reminding the light to the Gentiles that Palestinians are human beings The influentIal Jews must have lost their batteries.

]]> By: Tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html/comment-page-1#comment-50268 Tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/03/i-met-a-jewish-arabist-the-other-day-disguising-some-facts-about-him-to-protect-his-identity-still-i-wanted-to-convey-some.html#comment-50268 <p>America arms Israel, America should arm Hezbollah, in order to defend Lebanese Shiites from American arms given to Israel, and America should arm Hamas, to defend Palestinians from American arms given to Israel. It would be a lot cheaper and less bloody if America would just stop arming Israel, though. </p> America arms Israel, America should arm Hezbollah, in order to defend Lebanese Shiites from American arms given to Israel, and America should arm Hamas, to defend Palestinians from American arms given to Israel. It would be a lot cheaper and less bloody if America would just stop arming Israel, though.

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