Today on Fresh Air, Terry Gross asked former CIA officer Robert Baer to tell her some good news, and he said, Olmert said it this week; the key to peace in the Middle East is to give up the West Bank and East Jerusalem and bring Iran back into the company of nations. Like me, Baer breathes fire on the Israel lobby in some of his online writings. Well here, in the mainstream, he was getting the Palestinian issue front and center by citing the Israeli Prime Minister. Clever boy.
It is further evidence that the realist school is at last taking hold in American public life. 2 other pieces of evidence: Scott McLeod's Time Mag piece to which I referred earlier today, offering Olmert's path as the path forward; and the House leadership's decision to table House 362 last week, the belligerent resolution against Iran that AIPAC had pushed. The Israel lobby is loosing its grip on the American trachea.
Something else Baer said interesting. Osama bin Laden is dead, he asserted; and we have to change our strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And give up the (neocon) program of spreading democracy by force. Baer thus echoed what former Ambassador George Lane said lately: Let the Taliban stay in Afghanistan, we can't stop 'em. Realism on the rise.
On 11/02/07, the late Benazir Bhutto told David Frost that bin Laden was dead. The BBC saw fit to edit that part of the interview out until they got so many complaints they had to edit it back in.
Interview here
What exactly s Terry Gross' major malfunction? Baer tells her that OBL is dead, that we can have peace with Iran and withdraw from Iraq without jeopardizing US interests, that Iran is a powerful but rationally run regime with whom we can have satisfactory relations – and Gross replies by asking tell me some encouraging news? WTF?!
Gross needs to conceal her disappointment that we won't be escalating and expanding the war in the middle east any further. She is worse than Mara Liasson who griped after the Obama/McCain debate that both candidates failed to address the "real[sic] issue" with regard to Iran. What real issue was that you ask? Take a listen [3:09/18:56]:
"I thought that those discussions, although they went over a lot of well-plowed ground, were not as illuminating as they could have been. The real question about Iran is which is more dangerous, Iran having a nuclear weapon or us using military force to stop that. That is the decision faced by the next President"
These warmongering Zionist JAP's sure do get excited about seeing American goyim sacrifice their blood and treasure in service to Israel. Don't get me started about how all 16 US intelligence agencies agree that Iran is NOT developing a nuclear weapon. I see that Baer tactfully ignored that subject.
"the key to peace in the Middle East is to give up the West Bank and East Jerusalem and bring Iran back into the company of nations. Like me, Baer breathes fire on the Israel lobby in "
This capsulizes what so many have said on this blog for the last two years (absent Witty & SOG).
"The Israel lobby is loosing its grip on the American trachea."
great line, it paints the perfect picture of what aipac/zionims is doing to america.
but the zionist are arrogant as hell.
Could all of this unraveling of neocon influence stem from the failure in Iraq?
"Could all of this unraveling of neocon influence stem from the failure in Iraq?"
Yes, I'd say so, as well as from a myriad of other things, perhaps the most important being simply awareness – much has been documented in the last five years about how the war was planned years before 9/11, in Israel. Walt and Mearsheimer are the most prominent critics, but there are many others.
Of course, even with all the headway that's been made in exposing the Israel Lobby and its treasonous, genocidal agenda, the vice presidential candidates nevertheless had nothing but the highest praise for Israel. Palin was about to have an orgasm describing her love for Israel, and Biden looked straight into the camera and announced that NO ONE IS A BETTER FRIEND TO ISRAEL THAN JOE BIDEN (he's right, of course, having once declared himself a Zionist). It's simply unbelievable, with all the crap that's going on in this country, that the two candidates spoke most adamantly and eloquently (albeit briefly) about Israel. There is still much work to be done to release this country from the grip of its Zionist handlers.
I loved Baer's concluding comments today.
I really don't see that countries such as Pakistan and Afghanistan have much bearing at all on life and security in the US. Leave them alone.
If only the VP candidates in tonight's "debate" were as smart and forthright as Baer. . .
"It's simply unbelievable, with all the crap that's going on in this country, that the two candidates spoke most adamantly and eloquently (albeit briefly) about Israel. There is still much work to be done to release this country from the grip of its Zionist handlers."
I agree, Higginslads. I was already disgusted, but when Palin stated "we both love Israel," I couldn't believe my ears! I can only hope that Palin continued the one-upmanship on Israel to the point of declaring both candidate's love for Israel to make a mockery of the game that is going on. Unfortunately, I don't believe that.
Shouldn't declaring love for a foreign nation disqualify a candidate? Like congress, we sould be able to re-vote until we get what we want.
Maybe it will help McCain-Palin if they wear smily buttons or t-shirts declaring "I love Israel." Then Obama will have to wear one too, as he eventually did, with the passe American flag, which even McCain didn't bother to stick on in his last debate.