I hear your earlier point about Jews historically holding a social justice perspective when they were not in prominence, and the contrast (or difficulty) of manifesting justice when not excluded from power.

What do you think is an example of someone executing power justly?

ANYONE that you know?

In order for American Jews to overcome their ethnocentrisn, America has to become a multicultural nation with no regard for its past, culture or traditional population, and the Middle East has to be remade in the image of the Jewish faction that emerges victorious in the Jewish internal battle. What a deal!

The world is paying a hefty price for American Jews to overcome their ethnocentrism. If Phil doesn't see where this will lead, I know that some others don't–and they call the Gentiles stupid!

There are plenty of regimes and people's with a bad human rights record. One doesn't have to argue that Israel is the worst — only that the US has no business supporting and paying for its crimes.

Three Billion Dollars a year in direct aid, the warplanes and cluster bombs as well as police and riot control gear (the tear gas grenades thrown at nonviolent anti-Wall protesters are also made in the USA). Plus veto protection in the UN.

That's what makes us — and especially US pro-Israel lobbyists — complicit in a criminal enterprise.

What do you or others recommend of a model of a powerful society or influence?

Same as everywhere else in the world.

read my publications.

"Do you have successful model of power in mind?

I hear your earlier point about Jews historically holding a social justice perspective when they were not in prominence, and the contrast (or difficulty) of manifesting justice when not excluded from power.

What do you think is an example of someone executing power justly?

ANYONE that you know?"

I will have to guess at the point that is being made here. But he seems to be saying something here or is implying something but has done so in such a way that it can be denied if fleshed out. However, I will kick the football and try to articulate the lesson he seems to be drawing here. That is, can we name a someone who has ever executed power fairly. See ball in our court. Name one. I think every government that ever existed has exerted power unfairly to one degree or another. This is a very complex question. If you are unwilling to engage Witty in this debate about any government, except Israel, then Israel cannot be criticized.

That seems to be his argument. No one is ever in a position to criticize Israel. Today there was a Yom Kipper riot in Accre that began when Israeli youth stoned Arabs for driving their cars in violation of some kine of Jewish observance. The police responded by tear gassing and firing stun grenades at the Arabs! Rational people might consider that unfair. But Witty requires that we must first examine riot control methods in other countries before engaging in such criticism. See, anything that happens in Israel requires us to look away at some other country. That is where we should spend our time. Never look at Israel at times like these.

Am I close Witty? Or was your insinuation above a little unambiguous and you really meant something else.