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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;The New Yorker&#8217; and Iraq&#8211;Still No Penance</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;Andrew Sullivan&#039;s path is the most honorable one re Iraq: he&#039;s admitted he got it wrong and feels awful about it, end of story. He&#039;s shrived. Packer has never really done so.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apart from Sullivan, who else has? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here in Australia, all the columnists and other intellectual trollops who sold the war are still at their perches, still tunelessly singing songs written in Washington the previous week. My local rag the Sydney Morning Herald has a particularly odious crew - Miranda Devine (a sort of provincial Maureen Dowd, or perhaps a more provincial Maureen Dowd, replete with &#039;strong father&#039; fixation), Paul Sheehan (one of those impressionable nongs who wrote paeans of praise to Blair in 2002 while tearing &#039;immature&#039; antiwar protestors like myself to shreds) and finally Gerard Henderson, head of the corporate think tank The Sydney Institute, who used to work for ex-PM Howard and who toes the establishment line with as much gusto as a droning hack like him can muster.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All still drawing big salaries for ticking the boxes of their constituencies rather than their readers. Parent company Fairfax (an Aussie media icon) like the Grey Lady, in deep financial waters without a paddle, or a clue. Serves them right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Henderson wrote a piece the other day dutifully attacking an economist academic here called Steve Keen who has been forecasting the bursting of the housing bubble and a resulting depression for at least two years. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lately Keen has been in high demand on TV, and his refusal to sugar coat his prognostications evidently got up Gerard&#039;s nose, because he got the full sneer as a &#039;lecturer from a suburban University&#039; whose extreme claims have not been properly put under the microscope by the media.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Coming from someone whose own ridiculous parroting of claims about an al-Quaeda link to Saddam, or a meeting in Prague, or Colin POwell&#039;s WMD performance art at the UN etc etc could have been refuted AT THE TIME by anyone not emotionally buried in America&#039;s backside, this rebuke seems a tad presumptuous.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe what really riles the old goose, who so far as I know has never been correct about anything important, is someone, probably a lefty at that, having the temerity to actually be right!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Packer may not have said sorry, but he has  at least has written a fine piece in the New Yorker about the boonies in Ohio, which, like Blair&#039;s useless swanning around the ME and Powell&#039;s eventual endorsement of Obama, carries a whiff of penance about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nice work if you can get it; get all the major questions of the age wrong, and just keep on truckin&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;Andrew Sullivan&#39;s path is the most honorable one re Iraq: he&#39;s admitted he got it wrong and feels awful about it, end of story. He&#39;s shrived. Packer has never really done so.&#39;</p>
<p>Apart from Sullivan, who else has? </p>
<p>Here in Australia, all the columnists and other intellectual trollops who sold the war are still at their perches, still tunelessly singing songs written in Washington the previous week. My local rag the Sydney Morning Herald has a particularly odious crew &#8211; Miranda Devine (a sort of provincial Maureen Dowd, or perhaps a more provincial Maureen Dowd, replete with &#39;strong father&#39; fixation), Paul Sheehan (one of those impressionable nongs who wrote paeans of praise to Blair in 2002 while tearing &#39;immature&#39; antiwar protestors like myself to shreds) and finally Gerard Henderson, head of the corporate think tank The Sydney Institute, who used to work for ex-PM Howard and who toes the establishment line with as much gusto as a droning hack like him can muster.</p>
<p>All still drawing big salaries for ticking the boxes of their constituencies rather than their readers. Parent company Fairfax (an Aussie media icon) like the Grey Lady, in deep financial waters without a paddle, or a clue. Serves them right.</p>
<p>Henderson wrote a piece the other day dutifully attacking an economist academic here called Steve Keen who has been forecasting the bursting of the housing bubble and a resulting depression for at least two years. </p>
<p>Lately Keen has been in high demand on TV, and his refusal to sugar coat his prognostications evidently got up Gerard&#39;s nose, because he got the full sneer as a &#39;lecturer from a suburban University&#39; whose extreme claims have not been properly put under the microscope by the media.</p>
<p>Coming from someone whose own ridiculous parroting of claims about an al-Quaeda link to Saddam, or a meeting in Prague, or Colin POwell&#39;s WMD performance art at the UN etc etc could have been refuted AT THE TIME by anyone not emotionally buried in America&#39;s backside, this rebuke seems a tad presumptuous.</p>
<p>Maybe what really riles the old goose, who so far as I know has never been correct about anything important, is someone, probably a lefty at that, having the temerity to actually be right!</p>
<p>Packer may not have said sorry, but he has  at least has written a fine piece in the New Yorker about the boonies in Ohio, which, like Blair&#39;s useless swanning around the ME and Powell&#39;s eventual endorsement of Obama, carries a whiff of penance about it.</p>
<p>Nice work if you can get it; get all the major questions of the age wrong, and just keep on truckin&#39;.</p>
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		<title>By: peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;forgive me but remnick is jewish and so is george packer.  isn&#039;t that the thread that keeps appearing in the people who supported the iraq war? &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forgive me but remnick is jewish and so is george packer.  isn&#39;t that the thread that keeps appearing in the people who supported the iraq war? </p>
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		<title>By: peters</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/the-new-yorker-and-iraq-unshriven.html/comment-page-1#comment-48510</link>
		<dc:creator>peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;forgive me but remnick is jewish and so is george packer.  isn&#039;t that the thread that keeps appearing in the people who supported the iraq war? &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forgive me but remnick is jewish and so is george packer.  isn&#39;t that the thread that keeps appearing in the people who supported the iraq war? </p>
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		<title>By: samuelburke</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelburke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;one day all this will work its way into the mainstream.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/10/25/grant-f-smith/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Grant F. Smith, director of the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy and author of America’s Defense Line: The Justice Department’s Battle to Register the Israel Lobby as Agents of a Foreign Government, discusses the intrigue behind the AIPAC spy case, long rage patterns of neocon duplicity and criminality, the history behind the Logan Act, the complicity of the corporate media, the likely continuity of Mideast policy in an Obama administration and the War Party’s shutting down of much needed U.S. trade with the Mideast.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one day all this will work its way into the mainstream.</p>
<p>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/10/25/grant-f-smith/</p>
<p>Grant F. Smith, director of the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy and author of America’s Defense Line: The Justice Department’s Battle to Register the Israel Lobby as Agents of a Foreign Government, discusses the intrigue behind the AIPAC spy case, long rage patterns of neocon duplicity and criminality, the history behind the Logan Act, the complicity of the corporate media, the likely continuity of Mideast policy in an Obama administration and the War Party’s shutting down of much needed U.S. trade with the Mideast.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/the-new-yorker-and-iraq-unshriven.html/comment-page-1#comment-48512</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Today the AIPAC spy case is again in the courts--see if anything appears on this issue in the USA media.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today the AIPAC spy case is again in the courts&#8211;see if anything appears on this issue in the USA media.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The appeal issue due for court decision today is whether once again&lt;br /&gt;
there will be in essence, a lone exception to the law against treason:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2008/09/us-justice-departments-battle-to.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s all about burden of proof, in this case, meaning if it&#039;s a jewish&lt;br /&gt;
agency of any sort, the burden is much higher than for any other&lt;br /&gt;
group&#039;s activities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Watch the goys cave for a paltry handout.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The appeal issue due for court decision today is whether once again<br />
there will be in essence, a lone exception to the law against treason:</p>
<p>http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2008/09/us-justice-departments-battle-to.html</p>
<p>It&#39;s all about burden of proof, in this case, meaning if it&#39;s a jewish<br />
agency of any sort, the burden is much higher than for any other<br />
group&#39;s activities.</p>
<p>Watch the goys cave for a paltry handout.</p>
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