Comments on: It’s the Ethnocentrism, Stupid http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:18:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48904 Tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48904 <p>The US should defend the Palestinians as vigorously and generously as it defends Israelis. </p> The US should defend the Palestinians as vigorously and generously as it defends Israelis.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48905 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48905 <p>Phil, I feel your outrage.</p> <p>I am outraged too. Both of us as Americans pay for this literally, both in tax terms and in foreign hostility, ending up in American lives both as tax-drained Americans and GI boots on the ground (you know who these impoverished Americans are)...</p> <p>So, what to do? </p> <p>The vote is coming up. I will vote for Obama.</p> Phil, I feel your outrage.

I am outraged too. Both of us as Americans pay for this literally, both in tax terms and in foreign hostility, ending up in American lives both as tax-drained Americans and GI boots on the ground (you know who these impoverished Americans are)…

So, what to do?

The vote is coming up. I will vote for Obama.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48906 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48906 <p>The reason its not an issue for Israelis or for American Jews is that the injustice is balanced by the fear/prospect of terror from Palestinians and other sympathizers.</p> <p>Is it rational? Partially.</p> <p>Is it changeable? Likely, to an extent.</p> <p>Identifying a wrong is a first step. The next step is to actually solve it, in ways that it can be solved.</p> The reason its not an issue for Israelis or for American Jews is that the injustice is balanced by the fear/prospect of terror from Palestinians and other sympathizers.

Is it rational? Partially.

Is it changeable? Likely, to an extent.

Identifying a wrong is a first step. The next step is to actually solve it, in ways that it can be solved.

]]> By: MM http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48907 MM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48907 <p>Witty is always on about Holocaust II.</p> <p>It's always just around the bend, just over the horizon, just beyond the (expanding) borders.</p> <p>What is fear-mongering, and if truth isn't an antidote to it, what is?</p> <p>Richard, poor soul:</p> <p>There <i>is</i> no 8-story-high, 2-mile-wide broom in Palestine, designed to sweep all of Tel Aviv into the sea.</p> <p>As far as you and your tribal nationalists are concerned, in Palestine there is only the better part of a century of land-theft and aggression to make amends for.</p> Witty is always on about Holocaust II.

It's always just around the bend, just over the horizon, just beyond the (expanding) borders.

What is fear-mongering, and if truth isn't an antidote to it, what is?

Richard, poor soul:

There is no 8-story-high, 2-mile-wide broom in Palestine, designed to sweep all of Tel Aviv into the sea.

As far as you and your tribal nationalists are concerned, in Palestine there is only the better part of a century of land-theft and aggression to make amends for.

]]> By: agog http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48908 agog Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48908 <p>Bravo, Mr. Weiss!</p> <p>Powerful stuff, indeed.</p> Bravo, Mr. Weiss!

Powerful stuff, indeed.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48909 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48909 <p>I wish Witty would move to Israel. I hope he takes his family with him.</p> <p>I am tired of supporting the likes of him.</p> I wish Witty would move to Israel. I hope he takes his family with him.

I am tired of supporting the likes of him.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48910 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48910 <p>Its descriptive.</p> <p>Do you think the description is accurate?</p> Its descriptive.

Do you think the description is accurate?

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48911 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48911 <p>What is your first person?</p> <p>What is "we"?</p> <p>What is "I"?</p> <p>How do you relate to a person or a group that relates as a "we", rather than only an "I", or "it"?</p> What is your first person?

What is "we"?

What is "I"?

How do you relate to a person or a group that relates as a "we", rather than only an "I", or "it"?

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48912 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48912 <p>You ALL are lying if you claim that you are only objective, that there is no "we" that you defend in word.</p> You ALL are lying if you claim that you are only objective, that there is no "we" that you defend in word.

]]> By: morris http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html/comment-page-1#comment-48913 morris Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/23/they-have-been-stealing-the-land-of-powerless-farmers-for-decades-and-do-not-recoil-from-stealing-the-fruit-of-these-farmers.html#comment-48913 <p>The hooligans are a sorry sight, but they are just a symptom of the body politic of zionism. At All levels there is an active need to wallow in racialism. Many are powerful and being even more destructive. The arrogance of the Wall St. bonuses is just another sorry symptom. And many of the powerful practice such humility. Given that zionism appears at a tipping point, it's time to examine everything, all the myths, contemporary and in the last century and, to stop this humble faced violence, whether physical, economic or media. My 2 cents.</p> The hooligans are a sorry sight, but they are just a symptom of the body politic of zionism. At All levels there is an active need to wallow in racialism. Many are powerful and being even more destructive. The arrogance of the Wall St. bonuses is just another sorry symptom. And many of the powerful practice such humility. Given that zionism appears at a tipping point, it's time to examine everything, all the myths, contemporary and in the last century and, to stop this humble faced violence, whether physical, economic or media. My 2 cents.

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