Comments on: Anti-Zionist Group Is Launched for High Holidays http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: higginslads http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html/comment-page-1#comment-49985 higginslads Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/07/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html#comment-49985 <p>It's happening. The Zionist stranglehold is starting to lose its grip - not so much from a power perspective (it still has unprecedented financial, cultural, and political power), but, perhaps more importantly, from a knowledge standpoint. People are starting to KNOW. A light is being shone on Zionism and its racist ideology. Zionism knew from its beginning that it would have to do much of its work from a point of invisibility, and indeed accomplish much of its goals through out and out lies. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Well, things are no longer invisible, and more and more people everyday are able to see through the Zionist bullshit and stand firm in their convictions - no longer stymied by ridiculous charges of "antisemitism."<br /> </p> It's happening. The Zionist stranglehold is starting to lose its grip – not so much from a power perspective (it still has unprecedented financial, cultural, and political power), but, perhaps more importantly, from a knowledge standpoint. People are starting to KNOW. A light is being shone on Zionism and its racist ideology. Zionism knew from its beginning that it would have to do much of its work from a point of invisibility, and indeed accomplish much of its goals through out and out lies. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Well, things are no longer invisible, and more and more people everyday are able to see through the Zionist bullshit and stand firm in their convictions – no longer stymied by ridiculous charges of "antisemitism."

]]> By: Michael Weis http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html/comment-page-1#comment-49986 Michael Weis Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/07/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html#comment-49986 <p>What actual evidence do you guys have that the anti Zionist movement is gaining strength? The creation of new organizations isn't evidence that public perception/opinion is changing?</p> What actual evidence do you guys have that the anti Zionist movement is gaining strength? The creation of new organizations isn't evidence that public perception/opinion is changing?

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html/comment-page-1#comment-49987 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/07/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html#comment-49987 <p><i>What actual evidence do you guys have that the anti Zionist movement is gaining strength? The creation of new organizations isn't evidence that public perception/opinion is changing?</i></p> <p>It surely is, as it shows that Phil and Jack aren't alone. There is demand for a more open discourse on the issues. I think what helps the movement are the politics of the last 8 years.</p> <p>The deep irony in this is that the establishment holding the keys to how the issue can and should be discussed has seen this danger scenario rising on the left, as it has already been busy to establish an academic basis for their vision:</p> <p>The scapegoat: the anti-Zionists, the left and "the Arab mind" or the terrorists.</p> <p>Mind you, obviously there is a partial truth in the Arab danger scenario. But what was much more fascinating from my interested point of view was how eagerly the neocons propelled themselves into the scapegoat positions (at the peak-heat-"faster-please"-times) attracting all the attention as flattering courtiers at bush43's throne. That surely was quite a spectacle to behold.<br /> </p> What actual evidence do you guys have that the anti Zionist movement is gaining strength? The creation of new organizations isn't evidence that public perception/opinion is changing?

It surely is, as it shows that Phil and Jack aren't alone. There is demand for a more open discourse on the issues. I think what helps the movement are the politics of the last 8 years.

The deep irony in this is that the establishment holding the keys to how the issue can and should be discussed has seen this danger scenario rising on the left, as it has already been busy to establish an academic basis for their vision:

The scapegoat: the anti-Zionists, the left and "the Arab mind" or the terrorists.

Mind you, obviously there is a partial truth in the Arab danger scenario. But what was much more fascinating from my interested point of view was how eagerly the neocons propelled themselves into the scapegoat positions (at the peak-heat-"faster-please"-times) attracting all the attention as flattering courtiers at bush43's throne. That surely was quite a spectacle to behold.

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2008/10/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html/comment-page-1#comment-49988 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/10/07/will-ijan-become-a-household-word-heres-hoping-its-the-newly-launched-international-jewish-anti-zionist-network-not-a-lot.html#comment-49988 <p>terrorists = anti-Zionists, left, Arabs.</p> terrorists = anti-Zionists, left, Arabs.

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