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	<title>Comments on: Blacks Reassess Their Identity in Light of Obama Victory. Ergo&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Easton - South Bensonhurst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Easton - South Bensonhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In fact plenty of Black people say they need to deal with the crime problem. They are the ones getting shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact plenty of Black people say they need to deal with the crime problem. They are the ones getting shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr. Weiss:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You say, &quot;I don&#039;t think blacks are any better than Jews.&quot;  Umm, I&#039;m mostly a supporter of your dialogue, I think you&#039;re doing good work here, for real, for true.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the way to say it is, &quot;I don&#039;t think Jews are any better than blacks,&quot; not the other way around.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Weiss:</p>
<p>You say, &quot;I don&#39;t think blacks are any better than Jews.&quot;  Umm, I&#39;m mostly a supporter of your dialogue, I think you&#39;re doing good work here, for real, for true.</p>
<p>But the way to say it is, &quot;I don&#39;t think Jews are any better than blacks,&quot; not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think the change is going to happen soon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once you acknowledge Jewish power, the narrative of victimhood is gone. And without victimhood the narrative of choseness starts to look uncomfortably like old-fashioned supremacism. And without choseness what&#039;s left? A few yiddishisms, chicken soup,  and jokes about pushy mothers? It&#039;s not enough.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(I&#039;m leaving aside Judaism -- the religion -- of course, as it&#039;s a hard sell these days.)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think the change is going to happen soon.</p>
<p>Once you acknowledge Jewish power, the narrative of victimhood is gone. And without victimhood the narrative of choseness starts to look uncomfortably like old-fashioned supremacism. And without choseness what&#39;s left? A few yiddishisms, chicken soup,  and jokes about pushy mothers? It&#39;s not enough.</p>
<p>(I&#39;m leaving aside Judaism &#8212; the religion &#8212; of course, as it&#39;s a hard sell these days.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The shift from victim to peer to responsible is one that is written in Torah, and in the native urge for tikkun olam.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is a human urge, but emphasized among Jews as the measure of the man. A mensch, not merely a material success, not merely power for its own sake.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shift from victim to peer to responsible is one that is written in Torah, and in the native urge for tikkun olam.</p>
<p>That is a human urge, but emphasized among Jews as the measure of the man. A mensch, not merely a material success, not merely power for its own sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Take part in the shift, preserving the obligation as affirmed culturally, not only humanly, so that for sure some culture is carrying the ball.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If others do as well, in their own way, wonderful.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take part in the shift, preserving the obligation as affirmed culturally, not only humanly, so that for sure some culture is carrying the ball.</p>
<p>If others do as well, in their own way, wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fascinating, Richard. Better than Rod McKuen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But back to Phil&#039;s subject: Do you think the Jewish community has a tough time publicly acknowledging its power?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating, Richard. Better than Rod McKuen.</p>
<p>But back to Phil&#39;s subject: Do you think the Jewish community has a tough time publicly acknowledging its power?</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN DICKERSON</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN DICKERSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rod McKuen!!!!!!(LOL)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod McKuen!!!!!!(LOL)</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Many blacks are quoted trying to come to terms with the new reality of acceptance, and talking about dropping the yoke of difference and suffering&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No offence, but that is not the narrative I keep hearing on the street.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s more like the Jeffersons &quot;moving on up&quot; hummed by millions of people...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Many blacks are quoted trying to come to terms with the new reality of acceptance, and talking about dropping the yoke of difference and suffering&quot;</p>
<p>No offence, but that is not the narrative I keep hearing on the street.</p>
<p>It&#39;s more like the Jeffersons &quot;moving on up&quot; hummed by millions of people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eva Smagacz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva Smagacz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it needs more than one token black face in the administration  to make a point. Otherwise Obama is an exception to the rule. You need the government to be staffed in some sort of proportion that reflects make up of its populace. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By this criteria, Hispanics, Native Americans, Afro-Americans are totally underrepresented, White Americans are over-represented and Jewish-Americans are staggeringly over - represented. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To me, the lack of Hispanics in the government is most puzzling.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it needs more than one token black face in the administration  to make a point. Otherwise Obama is an exception to the rule. You need the government to be staffed in some sort of proportion that reflects make up of its populace. </p>
<p>By this criteria, Hispanics, Native Americans, Afro-Americans are totally underrepresented, White Americans are over-represented and Jewish-Americans are staggeringly over &#8211; represented. </p>
<p>To me, the lack of Hispanics in the government is most puzzling.</p>
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		<title>By: Sword of Gideonthe point.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sword of Gideonthe point.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So says the pollack&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So says the pollack</p>
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