Comments on: It’s Happening: Neocons Out in Obama’s Iran Braintrust, Realists In http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 03:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Susie http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46589 Susie Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46589 <p>Gary Sick is brilliant on Iran and everything else. He was also one of those who tried to expose Reagan's treason (the "October Surprise") in secretly negotiating with Iran to not release the US hostages before the election, to ensure his upset win over Pres. Jimmy Carter.</p> Gary Sick is brilliant on Iran and everything else. He was also one of those who tried to expose Reagan's treason (the "October Surprise") in secretly negotiating with Iran to not release the US hostages before the election, to ensure his upset win over Pres. Jimmy Carter.

]]> By: Susie http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46590 Susie Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46590 <p>Gary Sick is brilliant on Iran and everything else. He was also one of those who tried to expose Reagan's treason (the "October Surprise") in secretly negotiating with Iran to not release the US hostages before the election, to ensure his upset win over Pres. Jimmy Carter.</p> Gary Sick is brilliant on Iran and everything else. He was also one of those who tried to expose Reagan's treason (the "October Surprise") in secretly negotiating with Iran to not release the US hostages before the election, to ensure his upset win over Pres. Jimmy Carter.

]]> By: Glenn Condell http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46591 Glenn Condell Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46591 <p>Let's hope this means the Rahm appt to a senior but powerless (in terms of fo-po) position was a means of sidelining a potential antagonist (and the forces he represents) by keeping him inside the tent. </p> Let's hope this means the Rahm appt to a senior but powerless (in terms of fo-po) position was a means of sidelining a potential antagonist (and the forces he represents) by keeping him inside the tent.

]]> By: hlmeankin http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46592 hlmeankin Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46592 <p>The real issue here is not how intellectual or nuanced Sick's thinking is,but will Obama abandon his flawed view that Iran's possession of nuclear weapons is non-negotiable. <br /> Why can't Iran have nukes?<br /> Because it changes the balance of power in the mideast. So what?<br /> Because then Israel can't push around the Palestinians as easily.<br /> Ah,there we have it.. <br /> If the goal of protecting Israeli hegemony isn't abandoned,then "realism" is only a softer form of neoconism..<br /> which in essence is zionism</p> The real issue here is not how intellectual or nuanced Sick's thinking is,but will Obama abandon his flawed view that Iran's possession of nuclear weapons is non-negotiable.
Why can't Iran have nukes?
Because it changes the balance of power in the mideast. So what?
Because then Israel can't push around the Palestinians as easily.
Ah,there we have it..
If the goal of protecting Israeli hegemony isn't abandoned,then "realism" is only a softer form of neoconism..
which in essence is zionism

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46593 Colin Murray Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46593 <p>President-Elect Obama's selection of judges that hear national security cases, e.g., the AIPAC spy case, are of similar importance. Actual even-handed enforcement (is it too much to hope for?) of our nation's laws will go a long way towards bringing the lobby's activities out in the open for public scrutiny. </p> <p>The following AP article discusses judicial appointment possibilities. </p> <p>http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-obama-judges,0,6381534.story</p> President-Elect Obama's selection of judges that hear national security cases, e.g., the AIPAC spy case, are of similar importance. Actual even-handed enforcement (is it too much to hope for?) of our nation's laws will go a long way towards bringing the lobby's activities out in the open for public scrutiny.

The following AP article discusses judicial appointment possibilities.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-obama-judges,0,6381534.story

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46594 Colin Murray Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46594 <p>It is late. :( The preceding post should read "President-Elect Obama's selection of judges ... IS of similar importance."</p> It is late. :( The preceding post should read "President-Elect Obama's selection of judges … IS of similar importance."

]]> By: Sword of Gideonthe point. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46595 Sword of Gideonthe point. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46595 <p>That's terrific, Gary Sick who thought that Reagan conspired with the Iranians and the rest of the Carter hold overs. Can't imagine what could go wrong there;. </p> That's terrific, Gary Sick who thought that Reagan conspired with the Iranians and the rest of the Carter hold overs. Can't imagine what could go wrong there;.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46596 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46596 <p>Actually, Reagan conspired with Iran to hold off the release of American hostages while Carter was still in office, both running to be POTUS of the next USA regime. Israel was very active in this affair.</p> Actually, Reagan conspired with Iran to hold off the release of American hostages while Carter was still in office, both running to be POTUS of the next USA regime. Israel was very active in this affair.

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46597 Colin Murray Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46597 <p>Anon is right on target. This affair is very well documented. Don't let me bias you by suggesting sources. My impression is that you are intelligent and savvy enough to dig out the truth, if you actually want to know it. Former President Reagan may, or may not have, been completely in the loop, but his subordinates most certainly "conspired with Iran to hold off the release of American hostages while Carter was still in office, (while) both (were) running to be POTUS of the next USA regime." I differ from anon however in Israel's role. I don't think that they were 'very active', but rather key participants, in the same sense that they were key participants in the 1956 invasion of Egypt, rather than merely 'very active'.</p> Anon is right on target. This affair is very well documented. Don't let me bias you by suggesting sources. My impression is that you are intelligent and savvy enough to dig out the truth, if you actually want to know it. Former President Reagan may, or may not have, been completely in the loop, but his subordinates most certainly "conspired with Iran to hold off the release of American hostages while Carter was still in office, (while) both (were) running to be POTUS of the next USA regime." I differ from anon however in Israel's role. I don't think that they were 'very active', but rather key participants, in the same sense that they were key participants in the 1956 invasion of Egypt, rather than merely 'very active'.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html/comment-page-1#comment-46598 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/13/its-happening-neocons-out-in-obamas-iran-braintrust-realists-in.html#comment-46598 <p>I don't disagree with CM.</p> I don't disagree with CM.

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