Comments on: Mearsheimer Sees Signs of Glasnost in Israel Lobby

By: Doppler

Doppler — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Phil,

It is huge that you got this exclusive from Mearsheimer, whose voice has been muffled by the whatever it is. You are the new media. You should actively seek out the voices of other such criers in the wilderness. Walt. Finklestein. Talk to Stephen Bloom at Iowa. You know the list better than anyone. And not just in America, but in Israel and Europe. Your becoming required reading.

By: Rowan Berkeley

Rowan Berkeley — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

If you are a Gramscian, Phil, then you absolutely have to read (dense tho it is) Ian Lustick's "Unsettled States, Disputed Lands" (Cornell 1993, 450pp + 114n)

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I strongly agree that the water has changed as far as attitude.

For the actual change to occur, objective changes in both Israeli, Palestinian and Arab behavior need to occur.

Hezbollah announcing that they will not accept Israel at 67 borders. Hamas returning to shelling. Both are NOT the paths to any peace or "justice".

The consequence of Obama's presidency will be a marginalization of all fanatics (left, right, nationalist, religious).

The marginalization will be real, but will also sleep. Fanatics will lie low, teaching, some arming.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

You needed Saint Mearsheimer to describe that simple prediction to you?

By: anon

anon — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Still really annoyed that Mearsheimer broke the kosher seal of approval on enlightening free speech, eh Witty?

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Mearsheimer: "Lots of others will redouble their efforts to defend Israel, in large part because they favor a Greater Israel and believe they can dominate the discourse here as they have in the past"
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This is significant, because Mearsheimer, and expert on the subject, is acknowledging that a large percentage of the Jewish Zionists in this country have a Greater Israel agenda--an expansionist Israel agenda.

“How can this ever work?” cry the skeptics. “Why would the Jews want to govern large swaths of Arabs across the Mideast?” They don’t want to govern them; they want American troops to govern them--to “break” them--in order that Israel can cherry pick the currently occupied areas of the West Bank that it wants (with an eye on eventually taking the entirety of the “Promised Land,”) and to make it safe for Jewish Israelis and diaspora Jewish Zionists to financially exploit the surrounding areas.

This is a long term, hundred year plan, and always has been. The Jewish Neocons who lied America into war were planning decades down the road. The US military is just hired help used by them to attain Zionist Empire goals, paid for by pittance campaign donations to corrupt Democrats and Republicans. Future historians will recognize it as the greatest swindle in history, and shake their heads at the venality of this morally weak and corrupt generation of Americans that sold out their entire country and its future for the sake of political correctness and a pittance of filthy lucre.

By: LeaNder

LeaNder — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Interesting that he mentions Gramski. Maybe even more that he agrees with Phil's basic optimism. Is that the Obama effect on the theoretician?

By: Bantam

Bantam — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Meanwhile a traditionally persecuted religious group is one more time singled out by an infamous hate site displaying age-old stereotypes of its alleged ties to money and power:
" the extraordinary role this group played in helping to pass it with money, institutional support and dedicated volunteers."

By: MRW.

MRW. — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Yeah, Bantam, I read that NYT piece on the Mormons OUT LOUD and substituted the word Jew for Mormon and marveled that we would never see the same without howls of anti-semitism, even if the info were true.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

"Still really annoyed that Mearsheimer broke the kosher seal of approval on enlightening free speech, eh Witty?"

No, annoyed that Saint Mearsheimer would be given such laudatory praise for comments that are so evident, that Phil's "opponents" (J Street, liberal Zionists) routinely express.