Comments on: ‘Nosey in New York’ Seeks More Cases of Establishment Gentiles Who Converted to Judaism http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: observer http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html/comment-page-1#comment-45652 observer Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/20/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html#comment-45652 <p>Study of frozen wooly mammoth hair balls (lived 100,000 years ago)<br /> shows the extinct species's DNA is much less diverse than, for example that of elephants.</p> Study of frozen wooly mammoth hair balls (lived 100,000 years ago)
shows the extinct species's DNA is much less diverse than, for example that of elephants.

]]> By: Logan http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html/comment-page-1#comment-45653 Logan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/20/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html#comment-45653 <p>Sometimes it's a child of one Jewish parent who converts to Judaism when he or she takes a Jewish spouse. It's like that with Dara Torres, and that may be true for John Adler as well, judging by his name. John Kerry's brother Cam, was similar, though his Jewish ancestry is a generation further back.</p> <p>Ha'aretz has an article about the next Congress which closes with this:</p> <p>"And here is a nugget I can add thanks to a reader in NM: Congressman Tom Udall of New Mexico, son of Former Secretary of the Interior Stewart Udall and a nephew of former Congressman Mo Udall from Arizona, is not Jewish, but is a long time member of Temple Beth Shalom in Santa Fe, New Mexico. He is married to Jill Cooper, a Jewish woman. And he is running now for the open Senate Seat in New Mexico. We didn't count him as a member of the Jewish group in 2006, so we will not count him as one if he becomes a Senator. But maybe an honorary membership is due."</p> <p><br /> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/993690.html</p> Sometimes it's a child of one Jewish parent who converts to Judaism when he or she takes a Jewish spouse. It's like that with Dara Torres, and that may be true for John Adler as well, judging by his name. John Kerry's brother Cam, was similar, though his Jewish ancestry is a generation further back.

Ha'aretz has an article about the next Congress which closes with this:

"And here is a nugget I can add thanks to a reader in NM: Congressman Tom Udall of New Mexico, son of Former Secretary of the Interior Stewart Udall and a nephew of former Congressman Mo Udall from Arizona, is not Jewish, but is a long time member of Temple Beth Shalom in Santa Fe, New Mexico. He is married to Jill Cooper, a Jewish woman. And he is running now for the open Senate Seat in New Mexico. We didn't count him as a member of the Jewish group in 2006, so we will not count him as one if he becomes a Senator. But maybe an honorary membership is due."

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/11/20/nosey-in-new-york-seeks-more-cases-of-establishment-gentiles-who-converted-to-judaism.html#comment-45654 <p>What's better or worse, insisting your spouse convert to Judiasm, or to Christianity? </p> <p>In the USA, love tries to conquer all. That is, in its essence Christian when compared to Jewish Law.</p> <p>It's true this concept of love originated with the elite Christians in the middle ages--at the time, and for long thereafter, marriage was<br /> a very practical affair--totally political, materialistic, and devoid<br /> of most people being able to entertain the personal complex of<br /> ideals of beauty and other ideals.</p> <p>Jewish endogamy is very much similar to the history of royalty<br /> among the Gentiles right up to the 20th Century. A matter of<br /> power and survival of the status quo.</p> What's better or worse, insisting your spouse convert to Judiasm, or to Christianity?

In the USA, love tries to conquer all. That is, in its essence Christian when compared to Jewish Law.

It's true this concept of love originated with the elite Christians in the middle ages–at the time, and for long thereafter, marriage was
a very practical affair–totally political, materialistic, and devoid
of most people being able to entertain the personal complex of
ideals of beauty and other ideals.

Jewish endogamy is very much similar to the history of royalty
among the Gentiles right up to the 20th Century. A matter of
power and survival of the status quo.

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