Ralph Seliger explains his side of the dispute with Jews Uniting Jews, which is sponsoring a conference to revive Jewish antiwar feeling this Sunday in NY. Ralph had written an article taking on the conference, in the Forward:
I regret the form in which this article was published. It was very heavily
edited and I regret having approved it in this form. My original
version was more nuanced and friendlier in tone. I respect most of the
speakers attending the conference and consider myself politically close
to many.
edited and I regret having approved it in this form. My original
version was more nuanced and friendlier in tone. I respect most of the
speakers attending the conference and consider myself politically close
to many.
I wish the conference were more focused upon outlining a
progressive agenda for the new administration, rather than pushing an
immediate withdrawal from Iraq, when we know that a phased withdrawal
is clearly on the agenda. Hopefully, the war is all-but-over now
(events may prove me wrong, but this is my hope). As I argued, a too
rapid withdrawl may only serve to re-ignite inter-communal violence. In
other words, I'm totally with Obama on Iraq and Afghanistan and I'm delighted that the man I went to Pennsylvania to campaign for has been elected.
progressive agenda for the new administration, rather than pushing an
immediate withdrawal from Iraq, when we know that a phased withdrawal
is clearly on the agenda. Hopefully, the war is all-but-over now
(events may prove me wrong, but this is my hope). As I argued, a too
rapid withdrawl may only serve to re-ignite inter-communal violence. In
other words, I'm totally with Obama on Iraq and Afghanistan and I'm delighted that the man I went to Pennsylvania to campaign for has been elected.
I think I'm going on Sunday, and look forward to seeing Ralph.


Why is anyone paying any attention to Seliger, after the man was caught out lying about his alleged opposition to the Iraq war?
It looks like the neocons might not get exactly what they want from
the puppet government of Iraq. It reminds me of when HAMAS won
the Bush–approved election.
Arabs actually are not just meat pieces. Lucky for them, the Europeans have learned their lesson, and agree.
The USA needs to quit being you know what by the international
survivalists. It would help if the Gentile Americans realized immortality is in generations of humans, not pie in the sky.
Live and learn from the experts.
What a worm. He blasts the conference in the Forward (surely to the approval of their board and most readers) and then tries to ingratiate himself back into the antiwar club with this sniveling piece.
This shows a lack of a center, an inability to take a real position on anything. Perhaps it is the cognitive dissonance brought about through the inherent contradictions involved in being a progressive zionist. How do I reconcile my basic humanity, being fair to all of humanity with my de facto support for stealing land from the Palestinians and exiling them to massive concentration camps. Richard Witty is that way also, no real center, just putty sputtering on about how complicated everything is so a real position can never be articulated.
What a worm. He blasts the conference in the Forward (surely to the approval of their board and most readers) and then tries to ingratiate himself back into the antiwar club with this sniveling piece.
This shows a lack of a center, an inability to take a real position on anything. Perhaps it is the cognitive dissonance brought about through the inherent contradictions involved in being a progressive zionist. How do I reconcile my basic humanity, being fair to all of humanity with my de facto support for stealing land from the Palestinians and exiling them to massive concentration camps. Richard Witty is that way also, no real center, just putty sputtering on about how complicated everything is so a real position can never be articulated.
I've proposed a solution, Syvanen. What have you proposed?
"No real center".
Richard, how does your solution handle the claims of Palestinian arabs who have not been in possession of their land for the last decade and whose land-ownership was never registered as private land ownership under the Ottoman Empire? Those who were there literally on land for many centuries before a deed was needed, land
made theirs by the countless dead of their ancestors who lived and died there?
Why can't we see the unedited version?
Observer,
As in ANY locale that has registration as confirmation of title, it takes either a document of title, or for residence based assertions of title, some proof of prior and extended residence.
Its not a sure thing, and shouldn't be.
Those individuals that do not have specific substantiation of individual title, are at the mercy of the Palestinian state.
Legally, I think that Israel and Palestine should negotiate a reasonable and consented estimate of the extent of unidentifiable displaced and provide a fund FOR housing and other capital support for Palestinian direct descendants.
There IS a means to reconcile and settle claims, if the Palestinians are willing.
Witty
U make no sense at aLL.
Witty, as you know, by Israeli law 93% of all Israel is owned by the Jewish people and cannot be sold to anyone not a Jew. It's the old restrictive covenant of yore writ large and government-enforced.
Why is the USA supporting by money, force of arms, and UN votes
this giant private Jewish golf course?