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		<title>By: Eva Smagacz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva Smagacz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At the end, in Warsaw Ghetto they had approx. 150 calories per person per day. It didn&#039;t start that way, but as time progressed, the indifference and callousness of Germans increased, and they didn&#039;t really care: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My grandmother remembered that  a common sentiment was that Jews had money and they are really not starving, and anyway there were enough holes in ghetto walls to prevent any problems. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It reminds me of people saying that Gaza people should get money from rich Arab countries and buy their food rather than rely on handouts, and and that there are enough tunnels to deliver everything but Leviev diamonds and Rolls-Royces.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end, in Warsaw Ghetto they had approx. 150 calories per person per day. It didn&#39;t start that way, but as time progressed, the indifference and callousness of Germans increased, and they didn&#39;t really care: </p>
<p>My grandmother remembered that  a common sentiment was that Jews had money and they are really not starving, and anyway there were enough holes in ghetto walls to prevent any problems. </p>
<p>It reminds me of people saying that Gaza people should get money from rich Arab countries and buy their food rather than rely on handouts, and and that there are enough tunnels to deliver everything but Leviev diamonds and Rolls-Royces.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The meme I run across is that Egypt could solve the problem if they really wanted to.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just can&#039;t wrap my mind around the fact that a good portion of the civilized world blames the Palestinians of the WB and Gaza for their subjugation.  Is there some secret set of rules for undoing a brutal military occupation?   &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Americans to a person would fight to the death the kind of tyranny Israel has imposed on the native inhabitants of the land.  Why do we expect differently of Palestinians?  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s the inherent racism of this struggle: many Westerners unthinkingly expect the brown people to be satisfied with a half-life.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meme I run across is that Egypt could solve the problem if they really wanted to.</p>
<p>I just can&#39;t wrap my mind around the fact that a good portion of the civilized world blames the Palestinians of the WB and Gaza for their subjugation.  Is there some secret set of rules for undoing a brutal military occupation?   </p>
<p>Americans to a person would fight to the death the kind of tyranny Israel has imposed on the native inhabitants of the land.  Why do we expect differently of Palestinians?  </p>
<p>That&#39;s the inherent racism of this struggle: many Westerners unthinkingly expect the brown people to be satisfied with a half-life.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW.</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are no words for this disgraceful racism, and for anyone to think that somehow &quot;a chosen people&quot; are entitled to do this to another -- for whatever cockamamie reason -- is even viler.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no words for this disgraceful racism, and for anyone to think that somehow &quot;a chosen people&quot; are entitled to do this to another &#8212; for whatever cockamamie reason &#8212; is even viler.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW.</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shame on every Jew who thinks this is acceptable.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on every Jew who thinks this is acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Judy: That&#039;s the inherent racism of this struggle: many Westerners unthinkingly expect the brown people to be satisfied with a half-life.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Colin: I agree with your assessment. Also, I think, consistent with your statement that &quot;Americans to a person would fight to the death the kind of tyranny Israel has imposed&quot;, that Palestinian violence has been incredibly pacific. The wonder is not that there have been suicide bombers, but there have been so few coming out of a traumatized society of so many. The notion that Palestinians are mindlessly violent, hate life, and love terrorism is beyond ridiculous. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy: That&#39;s the inherent racism of this struggle: many Westerners unthinkingly expect the brown people to be satisfied with a half-life.</p>
<p>Colin: I agree with your assessment. Also, I think, consistent with your statement that &quot;Americans to a person would fight to the death the kind of tyranny Israel has imposed&quot;, that Palestinian violence has been incredibly pacific. The wonder is not that there have been suicide bombers, but there have been so few coming out of a traumatized society of so many. The notion that Palestinians are mindlessly violent, hate life, and love terrorism is beyond ridiculous. </p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eva: It&#039;s terrible to think we allowed a few Jews to survive, especially since some of them might have gone to later discriminate against Palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Colin: I hope that was just poorly worded. That is a horrible thing to say Eva.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eva: It&#39;s terrible to think we allowed a few Jews to survive, especially since some of them might have gone to later discriminate against Palestinians.</p>
<p>Colin: I hope that was just poorly worded. That is a horrible thing to say Eva.</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The center of apartheid is here, where Americans persist in denial enforced by the Israel lobby.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;American TV crew interviews 3 people:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cue typical American, over 60% of population: &quot;Serves them brown ni**ers right!  Go Israel, am waiting for the rupture!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cue typical aware of the world American, centrist (called left wing liberal in Yoo Ess of Ey): &quot;It is all the Arabs fault.  If only they would move away from their land and go to Egypt, or something, it would be OK.  It is Israel which is suffering here.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cue an American politician, any level, from president on down: &quot;Israel can do no wrong.  Apartheid is the wrong word to use - Israel cannot be racist, because of Holocaust.  Plus, you don&#039;t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.  I am a proud Zionist.  Can you hold on, my cell is ringing and it is AIPAC calling - hope I did all right in this interview with you... hold on... Yes, yes, hello rabbi... yes,  thank you, thank you, I tried to do my best... OK, I have to go now, thank you for asking me my views.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The center of apartheid is here, where Americans persist in denial enforced by the Israel lobby.&quot;</p>
<p>American TV crew interviews 3 people:</p>
<p>Cue typical American, over 60% of population: &quot;Serves them brown ni**ers right!  Go Israel, am waiting for the rupture!&quot;</p>
<p>Cue typical aware of the world American, centrist (called left wing liberal in Yoo Ess of Ey): &quot;It is all the Arabs fault.  If only they would move away from their land and go to Egypt, or something, it would be OK.  It is Israel which is suffering here.&quot;</p>
<p>Cue an American politician, any level, from president on down: &quot;Israel can do no wrong.  Apartheid is the wrong word to use &#8211; Israel cannot be racist, because of Holocaust.  Plus, you don&#39;t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.  I am a proud Zionist.  Can you hold on, my cell is ringing and it is AIPAC calling &#8211; hope I did all right in this interview with you&#8230; hold on&#8230; Yes, yes, hello rabbi&#8230; yes,  thank you, thank you, I tried to do my best&#8230; OK, I have to go now, thank you for asking me my views.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I disagreed with her, but now I think she may have been right. It&#039;s terrible to think we allowed a few Jews to survive, especially since some of them might have gone to later discriminate against Palestinians.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;F***s sake, Eva.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is a standard reaction of a bullied, beaten, abused child - the bullied, the victim, learns what&#039;s what and becomes a bully himself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This happens all the time in every school and in every country, and this is what Israel has become after the Holocaust.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I disagreed with her, but now I think she may have been right. It&#39;s terrible to think we allowed a few Jews to survive, especially since some of them might have gone to later discriminate against Palestinians.&quot;</p>
<p>F***s sake, Eva.</p>
<p>This is a standard reaction of a bullied, beaten, abused child &#8211; the bullied, the victim, learns what&#39;s what and becomes a bully himself.</p>
<p>This happens all the time in every school and in every country, and this is what Israel has become after the Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: americangoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>americangoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, to get my &quot;suffering street cred&quot; with the Holocaust industry folks, my grandma&#039;s best friend was an inmate at a concentration camp.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not a nazi slave labor camp which took in millions of poles, russians, french, and many others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, an honest to goodness, actual death camp (dislike the term concentration - a death camp seems more apt and truthful).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;She still has the tatoo...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, to get my &quot;suffering street cred&quot; with the Holocaust industry folks, my grandma&#39;s best friend was an inmate at a concentration camp.</p>
<p>Not a nazi slave labor camp which took in millions of poles, russians, french, and many others.</p>
<p>No, an honest to goodness, actual death camp (dislike the term concentration &#8211; a death camp seems more apt and truthful).</p>
<p>She still has the tatoo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickerson, Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dickerson, Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Witty? SOG?  Where are you guys?  Cleaning your big Israeli weapons?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witty? SOG?  Where are you guys?  Cleaning your big Israeli weapons?</p>
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