Comments on: 2009, looming http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:07:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: MM http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41772 MM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41772 <p>And may 2009 be the year that rejection of Zionism ceases to be a thought crime in the United States of America!</p> And may 2009 be the year that rejection of Zionism ceases to be a thought crime in the United States of America!

]]> By: Eli http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41773 Eli Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41773 <p>Wish you all the best for the coming new year Phil. As a long time reader (yet non-poster) of your blog, I hope to God that you keep writing these informative posts of yours.</p> <p>Peace to all!</p> <p>Best,<br /> Eli</p> Wish you all the best for the coming new year Phil. As a long time reader (yet non-poster) of your blog, I hope to God that you keep writing these informative posts of yours.

Peace to all!

Best,
Eli

]]> By: D. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41774 D. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41774 <p>Best to everyone!</p> <p>David</p> Best to everyone!

David

]]> By: samuelburke http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41775 samuelburke Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41775 <p>peace to you in the coming new year .....but to ask for nobility from the subservient slave who is being subjected to degradation is mighty white of you.</p> <p>peace to men of goodwill.</p> peace to you in the coming new year …..but to ask for nobility from the subservient slave who is being subjected to degradation is mighty white of you.

peace to men of goodwill.

]]> By: Madrid http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41776 Madrid Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41776 <p>Just came back from a New Years Eve party. Very educated and ethnically diverse crowd-- I heard a few people saying how appalled they were by what Israel was doing to Gaza. One woman compared it to bombing the poverty striken people of Bangladesh-- in other words, she was embarrassed for the Israelis that they would actually hype up a threat from the most desperate people on the planet.</p> <p>Interesting-- First time the issue has come up at a party for me, and for the first time in my life, I feel an once of optimism, I guess. I told her she should write a letter to her reps and Obama as well, and she said she would. Nothing huge, but there does seem to be more awareness now.</p> <p>Maybe educated people are more and more getting used to having to read the mainstream press in this country the way the Soviet citizenry used to read Pravda: between the lines.</p> <p>Happy New Year to everyone! (except the warmongers of Israel and the US.)</p> Just came back from a New Years Eve party. Very educated and ethnically diverse crowd– I heard a few people saying how appalled they were by what Israel was doing to Gaza. One woman compared it to bombing the poverty striken people of Bangladesh– in other words, she was embarrassed for the Israelis that they would actually hype up a threat from the most desperate people on the planet.

Interesting– First time the issue has come up at a party for me, and for the first time in my life, I feel an once of optimism, I guess. I told her she should write a letter to her reps and Obama as well, and she said she would. Nothing huge, but there does seem to be more awareness now.

Maybe educated people are more and more getting used to having to read the mainstream press in this country the way the Soviet citizenry used to read Pravda: between the lines.

Happy New Year to everyone! (except the warmongers of Israel and the US.)

]]> By: Anne Silver http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41777 Anne Silver Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41777 <p>Warm wishes to everyone. Now out of the parties and into the streets! Stop bombing Gaza and Free Palestine.</p> Warm wishes to everyone. Now out of the parties and into the streets! Stop bombing Gaza and Free Palestine.

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41778 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41778 <p>A toast to Phil, for bringing the cool breeze of sanity to this tortured topic... and to the posters, too, who have contributed bit by bit to our collective understanding. </p> A toast to Phil, for bringing the cool breeze of sanity to this tortured topic… and to the posters, too, who have contributed bit by bit to our collective understanding.

]]> By: Duscany http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41779 Duscany Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41779 <p>Israel Out of Gaza Now!</p> Israel Out of Gaza Now!

]]> By: wcars http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41780 wcars Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41780 <p>Maybe educated people are more and more getting used to having to read the mainstream press in this country the way the Soviet citizenry used to read Pravda: between the lines.</p> Maybe educated people are more and more getting used to having to read the mainstream press in this country the way the Soviet citizenry used to read Pravda: between the lines.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/2009-looming.html/comment-page-1#comment-41781 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/2009-looming.html#comment-41781 <p>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/world/middleeast/01gaza.html?_r=1&hp</p> <p>In Dense Gaza, Civilians Suffer</p> <p><br /> By TAGHREED EL-KHODARY<br /> Published: December 31, 2008</p> <p>GAZA — A dentist stood at the bed of a doctor, his good friend Ehab Madhoun, 32, who had just died, his shrapnel-pitted body wrapped in a white shroud. </p> <p>..</p> <p>It has always been this way, over years of conflict here, that civilians are killed in the densely populated Gaza Strip when Israel stages military operations it says are essential for its security. But five days of Israeli airstrikes have surpassed past operations in scale and intensity; the long-distance bombardment of the Hamas-controlled territory has, however well aimed at those suspected of being militants, splintered families and shattered homes in one of the most densely populated places on Earth.</p> <p>Among the total dead — between 320 and 390, according to the United Nations — Palestinian medical officials say that 38 were children and 25 were women. The United Nations agency that helps Palestinian refugees said 25 percent of those killed had been civilians. Israel said it knew of 40 civilian deaths but that it was still checking.</p> <p>Israeli officials are coming under increasing pressure to ease conditions for civilians, with tight supplies of electricity, water, food and medicine worsening shortages in an area already largely sealed off from the outside world. While Israel on Wednesday refused a 48-hour cease-fire suggested by the French to allow critical supplies into Gaza, it has been sensitive enough to the ever-louder complaints to say it will do all it can to allow in supplies.</p> <p>On the issue of civilian casualties, Israeli officials maintain that they do not take aim at civilians and do everything possible — like using precision-guidance systems, up-to-the minute intelligence, leaflets and phone calls to targeted areas — to avoid hitting them. </p> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/world/middleeast/01gaza.html?_r=1&hp

In Dense Gaza, Civilians Suffer

By TAGHREED EL-KHODARY
Published: December 31, 2008

GAZA — A dentist stood at the bed of a doctor, his good friend Ehab Madhoun, 32, who had just died, his shrapnel-pitted body wrapped in a white shroud.

..

It has always been this way, over years of conflict here, that civilians are killed in the densely populated Gaza Strip when Israel stages military operations it says are essential for its security. But five days of Israeli airstrikes have surpassed past operations in scale and intensity; the long-distance bombardment of the Hamas-controlled territory has, however well aimed at those suspected of being militants, splintered families and shattered homes in one of the most densely populated places on Earth.

Among the total dead — between 320 and 390, according to the United Nations — Palestinian medical officials say that 38 were children and 25 were women. The United Nations agency that helps Palestinian refugees said 25 percent of those killed had been civilians. Israel said it knew of 40 civilian deaths but that it was still checking.

Israeli officials are coming under increasing pressure to ease conditions for civilians, with tight supplies of electricity, water, food and medicine worsening shortages in an area already largely sealed off from the outside world. While Israel on Wednesday refused a 48-hour cease-fire suggested by the French to allow critical supplies into Gaza, it has been sensitive enough to the ever-louder complaints to say it will do all it can to allow in supplies.

On the issue of civilian casualties, Israeli officials maintain that they do not take aim at civilians and do everything possible — like using precision-guidance systems, up-to-the minute intelligence, leaflets and phone calls to targeted areas — to avoid hitting them.

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