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	<title>Comments on: Bromwich: NYT authority Morris sees Palestinians as &#8216;animals not yet inducted into full humanity&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think of Palestinians as animals requiring to be caged, nor regard it as wise to bomb Iran. (There could be occassions in which I would change my mind.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One reality of conducting sincere and fearless research, is that one discovers wrongs, cruelties.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One discovers wrongs that members of one&#039;s own community commits, AND wrongs and cruelties that members of opposing communities commit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is to Morris&#039; credit that he candidly reports both.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He does NOT self-censor about what he discovers about Hamas for example, as Phil does here (in solidarity or relevance).&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think of Palestinians as animals requiring to be caged, nor regard it as wise to bomb Iran. (There could be occassions in which I would change my mind.)</p>
<p>One reality of conducting sincere and fearless research, is that one discovers wrongs, cruelties.</p>
<p>One discovers wrongs that members of one&#39;s own community commits, AND wrongs and cruelties that members of opposing communities commit.</p>
<p>It is to Morris&#39; credit that he candidly reports both.</p>
<p>He does NOT self-censor about what he discovers about Hamas for example, as Phil does here (in solidarity or relevance).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;In the years since Benny Morris spoke those words, the construction of the Israeli wall in the West Bank, and the blockade of Gaza by land, sea, and air have created the cage he believed was necessary.&#039; -- David Bromwich&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet Benny&#039;s &#039;cage&#039; is not working so well, is it? As the increased range of rockets fired from Gaza shows, within a few more years the cage&#039;s inmates will have acquired the ability to strike anywhere in Israel, including Tel Aviv.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And at that point, it will become obvious that Israel&#039;s concrete apartheid wall is just another Maginot Line -- militarily useless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another wall which became militarily useless was the Berlin Wall. Ultimately both the ideology and the economic structure of the communist wall-builders proved to be hopelessly defective, and simply imploded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Old Grey Lady delivered electrifying reporting from eastern Europe in the autumn of 1989, during the communist collapse. But being a zionist organ, it can&#039;t see the analogies to Israel, increasingly crippled by its fantasyland zionist ideology and its fatal economic dependence on a bankrupt U.S. patron state.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, that&#039;s what bloggers are paid to do -- tell people what they need to hear. As opposed to the narcissistic MSM, which parrots the naive self-affirmations we want to hear -- &#039;we&#039;re the fairest of them all,&#039; &#039;change we can believe in,&#039; etc. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Patience, Phil. You may be able to pick up some useful shards of the demolished Times empire in its coming Chapter 7 liquidation, and yet make an honest woman out of the ghastly Croaking Crone of Eighth Avenue.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;In the years since Benny Morris spoke those words, the construction of the Israeli wall in the West Bank, and the blockade of Gaza by land, sea, and air have created the cage he believed was necessary.&#39; &#8212; David Bromwich</p>
<p>Yet Benny&#39;s &#39;cage&#39; is not working so well, is it? As the increased range of rockets fired from Gaza shows, within a few more years the cage&#39;s inmates will have acquired the ability to strike anywhere in Israel, including Tel Aviv.</p>
<p>And at that point, it will become obvious that Israel&#39;s concrete apartheid wall is just another Maginot Line &#8212; militarily useless.</p>
<p>Another wall which became militarily useless was the Berlin Wall. Ultimately both the ideology and the economic structure of the communist wall-builders proved to be hopelessly defective, and simply imploded.</p>
<p>The Old Grey Lady delivered electrifying reporting from eastern Europe in the autumn of 1989, during the communist collapse. But being a zionist organ, it can&#39;t see the analogies to Israel, increasingly crippled by its fantasyland zionist ideology and its fatal economic dependence on a bankrupt U.S. patron state.</p>
<p>Well, that&#39;s what bloggers are paid to do &#8212; tell people what they need to hear. As opposed to the narcissistic MSM, which parrots the naive self-affirmations we want to hear &#8212; &#39;we&#39;re the fairest of them all,&#39; &#39;change we can believe in,&#39; etc. </p>
<p>Patience, Phil. You may be able to pick up some useful shards of the demolished Times empire in its coming Chapter 7 liquidation, and yet make an honest woman out of the ghastly Croaking Crone of Eighth Avenue.</p>
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		<title>By: rabbi kook</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabbi kook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE Witty: &quot;I don&#039;t think of Palestinians as animals requiring to be caged, nor regard it as wise to bomb Iran. (There could be occassions in which I would change my mind.)&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, pray tell, Richard W, what scenarios could happen that you would deem it time to treat the Pals as caged animals, and that required the bombing of Iran?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We breathlessly await your good hearted wisdom.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE Witty: &quot;I don&#39;t think of Palestinians as animals requiring to be caged, nor regard it as wise to bomb Iran. (There could be occassions in which I would change my mind.)&quot;</p>
<p>And, pray tell, Richard W, what scenarios could happen that you would deem it time to treat the Pals as caged animals, and that required the bombing of Iran?</p>
<p>We breathlessly await your good hearted wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: jim byers</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim byers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Witty, I have an idea!  Let&#039;s send all the settlers back to Brooklyn.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Witty, I have an idea!  Let&#39;s send all the settlers back to Brooklyn.</p>
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