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	<title>Comments on: Former Knesset Speaker Describes American Jewry as &#8216;Semi-Autonomous,&#8217; Influential Structure Built by Zionism</title>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I guess that makes me an assimilationist.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What do you mean by assimilation? Do you mean being selectively Jewish, or adopting the traditions, culture and norms of the majority and traditional America? &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I guess that makes me an assimilationist.&quot;</p>
<p>What do you mean by assimilation? Do you mean being selectively Jewish, or adopting the traditions, culture and norms of the majority and traditional America? </p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The faction of the Jewish American community that accepts the semi-autonomous theme about Zionists may want to observe how another ethnic community has been treated the past few years. Much of the criticism, unfounded, about Hispanic immigrants is they do not assimilate. If there truly is a semi-autonomous Zion nationalist community in America, which at this time I do not  accept, it threatens the immigrant weave that made our nation so great. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Individual Americans who support Israeli military aggression and militant territorial acquisition, either through service to Israel&#039;s defense forces or settler groups, deserve the same punishment as John Walker Lindh received. But each case should be judged individually in a court of law without accusing the rest of the Jewish community for complicity in the crimes.    &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The faction of the Jewish American community that accepts the semi-autonomous theme about Zionists may want to observe how another ethnic community has been treated the past few years. Much of the criticism, unfounded, about Hispanic immigrants is they do not assimilate. If there truly is a semi-autonomous Zion nationalist community in America, which at this time I do not  accept, it threatens the immigrant weave that made our nation so great. </p>
<p>Individual Americans who support Israeli military aggression and militant territorial acquisition, either through service to Israel&#39;s defense forces or settler groups, deserve the same punishment as John Walker Lindh received. But each case should be judged individually in a court of law without accusing the rest of the Jewish community for complicity in the crimes.    </p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Burg: &quot;One is the semi-autonomous American Jewry, which was not here 150 years ago-- powerful influence, access to the corridors of power, impact on the culture, and civilization&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Weiss: &quot;if you think about it, Doug Feith had Theodor Herzl&#039;s picture on his wall and he got a lot further than me, all the way to Baghdad&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the kind of &quot;influence&quot; in their &quot;access to the corridors of power&quot; that Jewish American Zionists have brought this country--almost wholly negative. But at least Burg is acknowledging the existence of the Jewish Zionist nation within a nation, with its own interests, values, loyalties, and even its own shadow government, all coddled, pandered to and protected by the two-party regime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Man, its hell when your own government flings the doors wide open to a criminal enterprise that couldn&#039;t care less about the long term survival of the American people. To my mind, that&#039;s treason.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burg: &quot;One is the semi-autonomous American Jewry, which was not here 150 years ago&#8211; powerful influence, access to the corridors of power, impact on the culture, and civilization&quot;</p>
<p>Weiss: &quot;if you think about it, Doug Feith had Theodor Herzl&#39;s picture on his wall and he got a lot further than me, all the way to Baghdad&quot;</p>
<p>This is the kind of &quot;influence&quot; in their &quot;access to the corridors of power&quot; that Jewish American Zionists have brought this country&#8211;almost wholly negative. But at least Burg is acknowledging the existence of the Jewish Zionist nation within a nation, with its own interests, values, loyalties, and even its own shadow government, all coddled, pandered to and protected by the two-party regime.</p>
<p>Man, its hell when your own government flings the doors wide open to a criminal enterprise that couldn&#39;t care less about the long term survival of the American people. To my mind, that&#39;s treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tommy, let me guess: you&#039;re a card carrying member of La Raza. Hey, the racist Zionists were allowed to set up their own nation in America, why not racist Hispanics? Didn&#039;t both McCain and Obama pander to your group, too? But you guys should really be less obvious about your ambitions and operate with more stealth, like the Zionists. That way it will be easier to stick the knife in at the opportune time.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy, let me guess: you&#39;re a card carrying member of La Raza. Hey, the racist Zionists were allowed to set up their own nation in America, why not racist Hispanics? Didn&#39;t both McCain and Obama pander to your group, too? But you guys should really be less obvious about your ambitions and operate with more stealth, like the Zionists. That way it will be easier to stick the knife in at the opportune time.</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-campus-conflict-over-zionism.html?showComment=1227203640000#c8594536213986677&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The consolidation of Judonia preceded the transfer of its operations center to the USA&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-campus-conflict-over-zionism.html?showComment=1227203640000#c8594536213986677" rel="nofollow">The consolidation of Judonia preceded the transfer of its operations center to the USA</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline_Hyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqueline_Hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Didn&#039;t Herzl propose an African Zion? That&#039;s change *I* can believe in.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#39;t Herzl propose an African Zion? That&#39;s change *I* can believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting, Joachim. I still think you could use a different title and wording.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, Joachim. I still think you could use a different title and wording.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ed, let me guess: you are the descendant of European immigrants, like me, with the difference that you oppose other immigrants from coming to America, especially descendants of Native Americans, whose ancestry in the Western Hemisphere exceeds yours, and mine, by thousands of years. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, let me guess: you are the descendant of European immigrants, like me, with the difference that you oppose other immigrants from coming to America, especially descendants of Native Americans, whose ancestry in the Western Hemisphere exceeds yours, and mine, by thousands of years. </p></p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Tommy,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don’t oppose “other immigrants,” just those that want to set up a nation within the nation like the Jewish Zionists and La Raza, both of which you apparently support. Maybe you enjoy getting lied into war by shadow governments, and the increasing balkanization of America. Maybe you’re not La Raza, and merely another nation-smashing Marxist. Either way, those ideas spell the death knell for America. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And the Native Americans, who are really long ago Eurasian immigrants (or perhaps you never heard of Kennewick man)?  It’ll be hard for them to collect all that casino money when America breaks up because of you left-wing socialists and your open-border partners, the right-wing, cheap labor corporatists. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tommy,</p>
<p>I don’t oppose “other immigrants,” just those that want to set up a nation within the nation like the Jewish Zionists and La Raza, both of which you apparently support. Maybe you enjoy getting lied into war by shadow governments, and the increasing balkanization of America. Maybe you’re not La Raza, and merely another nation-smashing Marxist. Either way, those ideas spell the death knell for America. </p>
<p>And the Native Americans, who are really long ago Eurasian immigrants (or perhaps you never heard of Kennewick man)?  It’ll be hard for them to collect all that casino money when America breaks up because of you left-wing socialists and your open-border partners, the right-wing, cheap labor corporatists. </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The significance of &quot;built by Zionism&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While Phil considers the status of Jews in America to be separate from the Zionist emergence, MANY holocaust survivors think differently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many attribute their rise in potential and status, TO the presence of Israel, that there was a demonstrated place where Jews were not pariahs, but actually built a society of merit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are great wrongs in Palestine, that continue, and can be righted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, the presence of Israel is an accomplishment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it morphs into a subsequent great accomplishment that is somewhat different than its recent past, wonderful. Change is inevitable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it is only taken down, in agitated resentment, that would be a tragedy of a millenia, a moral disaster of pettiness.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The significance of &quot;built by Zionism&quot;.</p>
<p>While Phil considers the status of Jews in America to be separate from the Zionist emergence, MANY holocaust survivors think differently.</p>
<p>Many attribute their rise in potential and status, TO the presence of Israel, that there was a demonstrated place where Jews were not pariahs, but actually built a society of merit.</p>
<p>There are great wrongs in Palestine, that continue, and can be righted.</p>
<p>But, the presence of Israel is an accomplishment.</p>
<p>If it morphs into a subsequent great accomplishment that is somewhat different than its recent past, wonderful. Change is inevitable.</p>
<p>If it is only taken down, in agitated resentment, that would be a tragedy of a millenia, a moral disaster of pettiness.</p>
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