Comments on: Hadar: Israel/Palestine need not be a priority http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 06:48:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html/comment-page-1#comment-43150 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/18/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html#comment-43150 <p>Only if its possible. If its impossible, no president will risk his political capital for a vain effort.</p> <p>What can we do to make it possible?</p> <p>Discourage the extremists on both sides. In a word, encouraging the NON-RADICAL humanists and moderates.</p> Only if its possible. If its impossible, no president will risk his political capital for a vain effort.

What can we do to make it possible?

Discourage the extremists on both sides. In a word, encouraging the NON-RADICAL humanists and moderates.

]]> By: MRW. http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html/comment-page-1#comment-43151 MRW. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/18/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html#comment-43151 <p>Well, Mr. Hadar, all we have to do is take away the obscene amount of money that the now poor US taxpayers shovel to israel, which few know about, and we can watch that tune change.</p> <p>Israel is not critical to life in the USA.</p> Well, Mr. Hadar, all we have to do is take away the obscene amount of money that the now poor US taxpayers shovel to israel, which few know about, and we can watch that tune change.

Israel is not critical to life in the USA.

]]> By: Ed http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html/comment-page-1#comment-43152 Ed Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/18/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html#comment-43152 <p>I supported Scowcroft and Berzezinski when they were publicly speaking out against the Bush administration and its Mideast policies, but now they both strike me as dirty old men trying to save a decrepit Empire and a corrupt Establishment with tricks, high profile P.R., and minimal reform. Too much damage has been done by the elite to paper over its crimes with a few tweaks here and there, and in some ways concentrating merely on the I/P issue, and even bringing heavy pressure on the Israelis, strikes me as too little too late. Don’t get me wrong, organized Jewry should be brought to heel and made to pay for its role, but let’s not pretend there isn’t real systemic corruption across the entire two-party regime and its various tributaries that has nothing to do with the I/P issue, and that needs to be bored out and eviscerated. </p> <p>Even if the I/P issue was solved tomorrow, the slime in Washington and New York would remain, and it wouldn’t be long before it was back to its dirty tricks after having appeased some of its most tenacious critics who are animated by the I/P issue. Sorry, blokes. You’re not going to get off that easy. By all means, go ahead and throw the Israelis under the bus, but don’t think that that’ll get you off the hook.</p> I supported Scowcroft and Berzezinski when they were publicly speaking out against the Bush administration and its Mideast policies, but now they both strike me as dirty old men trying to save a decrepit Empire and a corrupt Establishment with tricks, high profile P.R., and minimal reform. Too much damage has been done by the elite to paper over its crimes with a few tweaks here and there, and in some ways concentrating merely on the I/P issue, and even bringing heavy pressure on the Israelis, strikes me as too little too late. Don’t get me wrong, organized Jewry should be brought to heel and made to pay for its role, but let’s not pretend there isn’t real systemic corruption across the entire two-party regime and its various tributaries that has nothing to do with the I/P issue, and that needs to be bored out and eviscerated.

Even if the I/P issue was solved tomorrow, the slime in Washington and New York would remain, and it wouldn’t be long before it was back to its dirty tricks after having appeased some of its most tenacious critics who are animated by the I/P issue. Sorry, blokes. You’re not going to get off that easy. By all means, go ahead and throw the Israelis under the bus, but don’t think that that’ll get you off the hook.

]]> By: stevieb http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html/comment-page-1#comment-43153 stevieb Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/18/hadar-israelpalestine-need-not-be-a-priority.html#comment-43153 <p>I have to agree with Leon. Obama might get troops out of Iraq, though it's looking grim on that count lately. He will probably talk to Iran, though I can't see what good that will do ultimately - they aren't going to change their belligerent policy towards Iran's completely legal nuclear program (the zionist objections are to their legal right to posses nuclear technology).</p> <p>Basically he doesn't have the guts to stand up to the lobby - we've already seen that....</p> I have to agree with Leon. Obama might get troops out of Iraq, though it's looking grim on that count lately. He will probably talk to Iran, though I can't see what good that will do ultimately – they aren't going to change their belligerent policy towards Iran's completely legal nuclear program (the zionist objections are to their legal right to posses nuclear technology).

Basically he doesn't have the guts to stand up to the lobby – we've already seen that….

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