Comments on: How to think about the missiles that terrorize Sderot, by Adam Horowitz, who’s been there http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Vic Rosenthal http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-97461 Vic Rosenthal Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:54:41 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-97461 "taken and imprisoned by the Israeli military for protesting the Wall" Well, in this case they were trying to physically destroy it. Is that 'protesting'? All the apartheid crap is to distract attention from the fact that the barrier (wall, fence, whatever) prevents Arab terrorists from killing Jews. The Palestinians started screaming bloody murder (so to speak) as soon as construction started, because they realized that their best weapon was being taken away. "taken and imprisoned by the Israeli military for protesting the Wall" Well, in this case they were trying to physically destroy it. Is that 'protesting'? All the apartheid crap is to distract attention from the fact that the barrier (wall, fence, whatever) prevents Arab terrorists from killing Jews. The Palestinians started screaming bloody murder (so to speak) as soon as construction started, because they realized that their best weapon was being taken away.

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41864 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41864 <p>Would anyone want Dershi in a foxhole with them? </p> Would anyone want Dershi in a foxhole with them?

]]> By: jesus reyes http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41865 jesus reyes Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41865 <p>Who is Adam Horowitz? Just asking.</p> Who is Adam Horowitz? Just asking.

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41866 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41866 <p>'The residents of Sderot are primarily Mizrahi Jews, poor and working class, who have been settled on the periphery to play exactly this role.'</p> <p>Interesting ... few of the Ashkenazi Jews who wave Sderot as a bloody shirt ever get round to mentioning that.</p> <p>'In a tired tradition, Dershowitz tries to blame the Palestinians for making Israel kill them.'</p> <p>Jimi Hendrix was decades ahead of Dersh ... and a lot more lyrical to boot (from 'Machine Gun,' inspired by Vietnam):</p> <p>Evil man make me kill ya<br /> Evil man make you kill me<br /> Evil man make me kill you<br /> Even though we're only families apart</p> 'The residents of Sderot are primarily Mizrahi Jews, poor and working class, who have been settled on the periphery to play exactly this role.'

Interesting … few of the Ashkenazi Jews who wave Sderot as a bloody shirt ever get round to mentioning that.

'In a tired tradition, Dershowitz tries to blame the Palestinians for making Israel kill them.'

Jimi Hendrix was decades ahead of Dersh … and a lot more lyrical to boot (from 'Machine Gun,' inspired by Vietnam):

Evil man make me kill ya
Evil man make you kill me
Evil man make me kill you
Even though we're only families apart

]]> By: anon http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41867 anon Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41867 <p>"The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" -- old Polish proverb.</p> "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" — old Polish proverb.

]]> By: common human http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41868 common human Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41868 <p>israel is by design a seemingly complex state. it's structure is weak but the maintenance crew is clever and eager to keep the rot away. you know like whenever there is a pipe break termites are to be blamed etc. </p> israel is by design a seemingly complex state. it's structure is weak but the maintenance crew is clever and eager to keep the rot away. you know like whenever there is a pipe break termites are to be blamed etc.

]]> By: raBBI kook http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41869 raBBI kook Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41869 <p>Sderot cannon fodder speak up: http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/</p> Sderot cannon fodder speak up: http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41870 <p>Finally,<br /> A rational post from Adam Horowitz.</p> <p>Oh how wonderful it would be to hear similarly from Gaza Palestinians. "We don't want aggression. We don't want harrassment of our neighbors. We want negotiation and reconciliation."</p> Finally,
A rational post from Adam Horowitz.

Oh how wonderful it would be to hear similarly from Gaza Palestinians. "We don't want aggression. We don't want harrassment of our neighbors. We want negotiation and reconciliation."

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41871 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41871 <p>The thing that is ironic, is that Dershowitz himself likely agrees with the urge to negotiate, rather than aggress or agitate.</p> The thing that is ironic, is that Dershowitz himself likely agrees with the urge to negotiate, rather than aggress or agitate.

]]> By: Joshua http://mondoweiss.net/2008/12/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html/comment-page-1#comment-41872 Joshua Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/12/31/how-to-think-about-the-missiles-that-terrorize-sderot-by-adam-horowitz-whos-been-there.html#comment-41872 <p>I hate to note this but this latest escalation has only made me even more pessimistic that something can be done to bring this to a halt until the price paid (by the Palestinians predominatly) is too severe to forgive. There are reports and indications that this operation by Israel was planned right when Hamas blew open the Rafah wall, essentially making it almost one year ago for a "shock and awe" campaign. Also more cynically interesting is the fact that Mubarak is all too complicit in this murder. Naturally all sides cannot be absolved of blame but surely Mubarak is even more vile by encasing fleeing Palestinians in the cage for more slaughter. Would anyone ever connect him as a US/Israeli satrap? Can the Muslim Brotherhood take more punishment at his hands when their offshoot brothers are being massacred north of the border?</p> <p>We all know that the Gazans are entombed here for pure political posturing. Lebanese can attest to this (over and over) and they know more than anyone what it feels like to be carpet bombed by Israel.</p> <p>A year or so back before Israel observed the "ceasefire" with Hamas, residents of Sderot and Ashkelon were very irate at their own government for giving a pittance of protection and aide to the communities. Given their PR concern over their daily lives under the threat of Qassam rockets, the Israeli government provided little to no shelters and the Sderot citizens were outraged. They know, as Adam has stated, that they are the ones who pay the price for any incursion into Gaza.</p> <p>Maybe Hamas can reverse the rhetoric and tell Sderot residents "stop making us kill (which they do a very poor job of [4 just this week but the only 4 fatalities all year long]) your children". Would that be appropriate?</p> I hate to note this but this latest escalation has only made me even more pessimistic that something can be done to bring this to a halt until the price paid (by the Palestinians predominatly) is too severe to forgive. There are reports and indications that this operation by Israel was planned right when Hamas blew open the Rafah wall, essentially making it almost one year ago for a "shock and awe" campaign. Also more cynically interesting is the fact that Mubarak is all too complicit in this murder. Naturally all sides cannot be absolved of blame but surely Mubarak is even more vile by encasing fleeing Palestinians in the cage for more slaughter. Would anyone ever connect him as a US/Israeli satrap? Can the Muslim Brotherhood take more punishment at his hands when their offshoot brothers are being massacred north of the border?

We all know that the Gazans are entombed here for pure political posturing. Lebanese can attest to this (over and over) and they know more than anyone what it feels like to be carpet bombed by Israel.

A year or so back before Israel observed the "ceasefire" with Hamas, residents of Sderot and Ashkelon were very irate at their own government for giving a pittance of protection and aide to the communities. Given their PR concern over their daily lives under the threat of Qassam rockets, the Israeli government provided little to no shelters and the Sderot citizens were outraged. They know, as Adam has stated, that they are the ones who pay the price for any incursion into Gaza.

Maybe Hamas can reverse the rhetoric and tell Sderot residents "stop making us kill (which they do a very poor job of [4 just this week but the only 4 fatalities all year long]) your children". Would that be appropriate?

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