I promise you all this stuff is going to come out, about the Jewish neocons and Iraq

New book by Times reporter Pat Tyler says George Tenet raged against the necon Jews while bathing in Prince Bandar's pool. Interesting that Tenet wrote a whole book about Iraq and left Jews out of it. Will this finally give Chris Matthews (who beat up Frank Gaffney last night on Iraq) permission to say the magic words? (Jewish neocons) Jeffrey Goldberg picked it up in his blog, scooped it, like a duck on a junebug. Good for him. But Jeffrey darling, how do you explain that Tenet would write a whole book about Iraq and not say what he said in Prince Bandar's pool? What is the muzzle he was wearing on his soul?

That's a quote from Melville, from 1849 or so, in a letter to his publisher Evert Duyckinck, expressing the wish that Shakespeare were alive: "Not that I might have had the pleasure of leaving my card for him at the Astor, or made merry with him over … punch; but that the muzzle which all men wore on their souls in the Elizabethan day, might not have intercepted Shakespeare's full articulations. For I hold it a verity, that even Shakespeare was not a frank man to the uttermost. And, indeed, who in this intolerant Universe is, or can be?"

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  1. ThinkProgress has the video clip of Matthews getting Gaffney to talk complete crap:
    link to thinkprogress.org

  2. Todd says:

    I wonder what the spin will be when it finally does come out officially?

  3. 5 dancing shlomos says:

    the spin already is george dick and donald did it. the jewcons were manipulated tools.

  4. Eic says:

    As someone who has worked on the Hill, perception of power is powerperception of power is key. AIPAC loves you, Phil.

    The more you play up this Israel Lobby thing, the more Members of Congress will scuffle to make pro-Israel speeches. Most political strategists I've worked for wouldnt read your blog and think, MY Gosh, this Israel Lobby is horrible! Instead, they're thinking, wow if Phil really fears the Israel lobby this is a great opportunity for campaign financing and positive community PR. Get [insert bosses name] on the first flight to Israel!

    I've always argued that the actual power of the pro-Israel community is much smaller that any of us think.

    You really want to hurt the lobby, you should report on how small its organizations budgets are in comparison to other lobby groups, etc.

  5. Eric says:

    Many America-Firsters (not all, only the anti-Semitic ones) before WW2 said that one day a Jewish conspiracy to pressure the US into war with Germany be exposed. Jewish involvement in the invasion of Iraq will ever come out, because it wasn’t the reason we went in.

    Jewish Neocons played a MAJOR role in pressuring the administration to invade Iraq. But so did-non Jewish neocons. The majority of Jewish pro-Israel activist political donors were against the war. In the end, as someone else said, it was Don Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc. Even though I despise the oil-conspiracy asshole, I would nto be surprised if it was an attempt to secure America's dominance in the region for the entire 21st century as a means to secure our oil supply.

  6. Doppler says:

    It's not that the Iraq war was a result of a Jewish conspiracy; it's that those who advocated for war, Neocons of all stripes, did so through deceptive means, for many different purposes, and actively sought to deceive, and are now actively seeking to cover up, and to deflect blame away from themselves. The Jews involved were and are effective in what they do, in a certain way, other than in proceeding with no good strategic plan and having no ethics about deception. Everyone should be held accountable, regardless. It's not about Jewishness, it's about competence and integrity.

  7. morris says:

    Those in the know, that is, not the public or journalists, know how truly dark and sinister the neocons are, the thought of them ever being exposed would be unbelievable, first of all people would actually find the truth hard to believe.

    And 'crazies' like alex jones occasionally spill the beans, but it doesn't really go anywhere. (Although millions listen)

    Expect Obama's team to continue down the neocons path, resulting in more tragedy, that is, if something doesn't blow up before he gets in.

    So this post is saying the neocon involvement will be exposed, only in a post revolutionary setting, and the jews in general will be lucky to escape the wrath of all.

  8. morris says:

    Here is a glance into the Neocons from the British Guardian:

    Dick Cheney's brazen ABC interview shows that he doesn't care about war, torture, the truth – or even George Bush

    link to guardian.co.uk

  9. Wikipedia, Hummus, Falafil, WWI, Dolchstoßlegende is worth reading in conjunction with a discussion of Neoconservative seditious conspiracy.

    In my nomenclature a non-Jew like Cheney is a Friedmanite Neoliberal while Douglas Feith is a Jabotinskian Neoconservative. The Friedmanites and Jabotinskians bonded during the Reagan administration, but they are distinct, and there are no non-Jewish Neocons worth mentioning.

  10. Joachim, I don't think the neocons ever really challenged neolib economics, did they? The difference lay in the contrasting styles of pop pseudo philosophy they presented to the masses – just the old binary choice of 'safe pair of hands,' true blue ideological wallpaper versus risqué, 'let's pretend to be progressive,' pink ideological wallpaper. It's the same goddam room, innit?

  11. ed says:

    Read Joachim's blog anyway. He proves that Jews lost WWI AND started WW II. Also, Dreyfus was GUILTY after all. And Matzohs really are made with the blood of Christian children.

  12. you got a very low class set of trolls here, Phil. No talent bums, frankly. A good troll can keep you involved even though you know he's trolling, but these characters are hardly worth demonstrating one's fair-mindedness upon.

  13. MRW. says:

    White man's burden

    By Ari Shavit

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history.

    Written in Ha'Aretz 04/04/03.

    The Israeli papers ware waaaay more honest.

  14. morris says:

    M. J. Rosenberg, a former AIPAC staffer now associated with the moderate Israel Policy Forum, expressed the hope that commentators would stop equating neo-conservatism with Judaism and start treating it as a political movement subject to political criticism.

    “Although most neocons are Jews, few Jews are neocons,” he wrote Wednesday. By equating the two groups, “[the neocons] want Americans not to follow the trail of war-mongering that leads not to Jews but to them”.

    And good Jews who spoke out, who said war mongering isn’t necesarilly Jewish, are no longer so much in the wilderness:

    When it comes to Israel, it’s usually best to avoid official versions of every event. Lying has become a full-time business.
    Old post on Antony Loewenstein’s blog