Comments on: Answering the ‘are you now or have you ever been a Zionist’ question

By: Eva Smagacz

Eva Smagacz — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Absolute must see:

By: Eva Smagacz

Eva Smagacz — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Click on "View All Images" above

By: Jim Haygood

Jim Haygood — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Still marveling over that UJA Toronto site -- raising funds for Southern Israel relief -- reminding us of the Mumbai tragedy -- but not a word about Gaza's plight.

Let's try another one of those popular thought experiments. An 8.2-magnitude earthquake strikes 20 miles south of the California border. In Tijuana, buildings topple, power goes out, more than 600 are dead, thousands injured; hospitals, morgues and emergency services are overwhelmed; government services break down; food, water and medicine run short.

In San Diego, there are a couple of deaths, a few more injuries, and a dozen houses are structurally damaged. Other than that, all public services are functioning normally.

What kind of people would be so insular as to obsess about the 'San Diego crisis' and 'San Diego relief,' when the massive destruction occurred across the border in Mexico? Maybe a few anti-immigration activists, at most.

Legal terminology provides a perfect description of the underlying attitude: DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE.

By: peters

peters — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I have been thinking that I am now matching up up Jewish named journalists with their politics vis a vis Israel, or their possible secret agenda. I did not do this formerly. I believe it is happening now because I have been made aware of the intense tribalism of Jews. I used to be "blind", as in colorblind ,as we used to say about relating people of color. Becoming aware of the tribe in all it's power has removed this ideal state.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Non-Zionist and neutral-Zionist Jews are finally starting to wake up to what Jewish Zionists have betrothed them by utterly co-opting Judaism on behalf of Zionism. Their choices now seem to be to either change their names and utterly disassociate with Judaism (a route many before them have taken), completely fracture with Jewish Zionists and practice their own interpretation of Judaism that is openly, explicitly and innately anti-Zionist and refuses to associate with Jewish Zionists, and by necessity actively combats them, or allow Zionists to continue to ratchet control of Judaism until they either rule the world or bring an apocalyptic reckoning down on Judaism’s head.

By: S Kneedler

S Kneedler — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I've been struggling with what Peters expresses. I never had a clue about who was jewish, what were jewish names, and in any case try to see beyond abstractions to particulars. I never knew that all of Clinton's "negotiating" team were in fact totally on Israel's side. I never knew many of the "reporters" who censored the "news" were jewish or seeming zionists.

I was always surprised and hurt by the ferocity with which various jewish friends would give each other "the look ["O, she's one of them! a wasp anti-semite!"]--as I slowly came to understand it--when I criticized US-Israeli actions, before telling me in unison how ignorant I was.

Beyond the horror of the carnage my country is inflicting on the people of Palestine--and Iraq, Afghanistan, Colombia, and all the terrors it's caused others around the world and at home, I'm sad to be learning to be aware of categories and questions I'd never considered before. And the rare times I heard others speak of jewish, mormon, or any other "group's" insularity, I assumed that it was their unspeakable bigotry speaking--or, on the lighter side, it was just one of Larry David's "say the unthinkable" jokes.

That's why Phil's site has been such a revelation to me.

I think for me the answer may be to return to judging as much as I can only by individuals, one by one, and leave the hard work of distinguishing among generalizations to all the bright people at this site.

By: Martin

Martin — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Eva, please. Many of those images are from the 2005 explosion at a Hamas missile shop! This has been documented by France2 yesterday.

By: Rowan Berkeley

Rowan Berkeley — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I can't seem to post any more, have deleted the relevant cookies.

What I wanted to say is that there is a little IDF computer video psyops unit, and what they do is take genuine atrocity footage from Gaza, intercut it with old stuff from anywhere and anywhen, and then expose their own bastardised versions as fakes and claim they are the originals.

By: D.

D. — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Great slide show, Eva. I was going to suggest that Richard Witty would probably soon be along to cast doubt on their validity, but I see that another landsman has already beaten him to it.

(BTW where is Richard lately? Is it possible that the great windbag has finally been shamed into silence? Or is he busy attending the StandWithUs demos?)

By: D.

D. — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

But to return to Goldstein's piece, we need to start clamping down on the promiscuous use of this term "anti-Semitism."

Goldstein writes, "It is tragic to learn that due to the fighting in Gaza, Jews in France, Sweden, Belgium, and Denmark have suffered anti-Semitic violence and vandalism in recent days."

But "anti-Semitism" is supposed to be the irrational hatred of Jews as Jews. If these acts in Europe are due to the fighting in Gaza then they're not due to an irrational hatred. They may be angy, and cruel, maybe even disproportionate, and vengeful, and all the other shortcomings that man is heir to, but they're not "anti-Semitism."