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	<title>Comments on: How can Dennis Ross be effective after chairing Israeli institute that called for &#8216;bringing Ahmadinejad to justice&#8217;?</title>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes Dennis Ross,drum major for attack on Iraq.  Having him handle negotiations with Iran would have been a JOKE.  Those talks would have been designed to fail.  That would have been the Israeli directive.  What is even more worthy of consideration is the cost of Israel  to the American Taxpayer.  According to the Christian Science Monitor,Israel has cost the US   $1.3 TRILLION since 1973  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes Dennis Ross,drum major for attack on Iraq.  Having him handle negotiations with Iran would have been a JOKE.  Those talks would have been designed to fail.  That would have been the Israeli directive.  What is even more worthy of consideration is the cost of Israel  to the American Taxpayer.  According to the Christian Science Monitor,Israel has cost the US   $1.3 TRILLION since 1973</p>
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		<title>By: David Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Cotler statement that is linked is particularly rich. First, the Iranian/Hizbollah connection to the Argentinian Jewish Community Center bombing is by no means proved. Gareth Porter has offered reasons why the connection is doubtful: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080204/porter&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wasn&#039;t aware of this most recent article until I just found it, but Porter and others have debunked this for quite some time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, Argentinians have never been held accountable for the dirty war 1977-83 that took a disproportinate toll on (liberal, left, secular, professional) Jews. This has been partly attributed to the support of Israel and arms sales by Israel to the neo-Nazi regime (they&#039;re commonly referred to as neo-Nazi, but I must admit I don&#039;t know if they deserve the label any more than other regimes who aren&#039;t referred to in the same way).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just another example where even Jews have to earn their right to be worthy victims. There is always politics behind how Jewish victims get treated, even in relation to the Holocaust, obviously. Jacobo Timmerman, of course, was a refugee from this period.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of this course is just icing on the cake in terms of the outrageous nature of these claims against Iran.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cotler statement that is linked is particularly rich. First, the Iranian/Hizbollah connection to the Argentinian Jewish Community Center bombing is by no means proved. Gareth Porter has offered reasons why the connection is doubtful: <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080204/porter</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to thenation.com</a></p>
<p>I wasn&#39;t aware of this most recent article until I just found it, but Porter and others have debunked this for quite some time.</p>
<p>Second, Argentinians have never been held accountable for the dirty war 1977-83 that took a disproportinate toll on (liberal, left, secular, professional) Jews. This has been partly attributed to the support of Israel and arms sales by Israel to the neo-Nazi regime (they&#39;re commonly referred to as neo-Nazi, but I must admit I don&#39;t know if they deserve the label any more than other regimes who aren&#39;t referred to in the same way).</p>
<p>Just another example where even Jews have to earn their right to be worthy victims. There is always politics behind how Jewish victims get treated, even in relation to the Holocaust, obviously. Jacobo Timmerman, of course, was a refugee from this period.</p>
<p>All of this course is just icing on the cake in terms of the outrageous nature of these claims against Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel Lobby Archive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Israel Lobby Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The bigger issue that you&#039;re all missing is this: The Jewish Agency, which funds Dennis Ross&#039;s think tank, has been at the center of illegal West Bank colonization.  Israeli prosecutor Talia Sasson issued a report on this back in 2005, the Forward has reported on it. etc. etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can the US have a diplomat who is so hard wired into settlement building?  If so, why not just hire Lev Leviev to negotiate with Iran?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger issue that you&#39;re all missing is this: The Jewish Agency, which funds Dennis Ross&#39;s think tank, has been at the center of illegal West Bank colonization.  Israeli prosecutor Talia Sasson issued a report on this back in 2005, the Forward has reported on it. etc. etc.</p>
<p>Can the US have a diplomat who is so hard wired into settlement building?  If so, why not just hire Lev Leviev to negotiate with Iran?</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My candidate for envoy is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~nelc/faculty/mottahedeh.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Roy Mottahedeh&lt;/a&gt;. He understands Iran.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have no idea what his politics are. But he knows the place.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My candidate for envoy is <a href="http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~nelc/faculty/mottahedeh.htm" rel="nofollow">Roy Mottahedeh</a>. He understands Iran.</p>
<p>I have no idea what his politics are. But he knows the place.</p>
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		<title>By: littlehorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another point to be made is that Ahmadinejad never called for Israel&#039;s physical destruction; rather, he prophetized the end of the Zionist regime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That this lie can still stand after all this time is incredible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It does not make much sense either: &quot;GUYS ! I AM SO GOING TO ERASE YOUR COUNTRY ! But don&#039;t worry, this nuclear program is only for civilian use.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Really, how dumb and incoherent can people be ? Obviously, a secret urge to destroy a country would imply that Ahmadinejad refrains from publicly advocating a holocaust. If he did, then his whole plan would go to waste. Use your head dammit !&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point to be made is that Ahmadinejad never called for Israel&#39;s physical destruction; rather, he prophetized the end of the Zionist regime.</p>
<p>That this lie can still stand after all this time is incredible.</p>
<p>It does not make much sense either: &quot;GUYS ! I AM SO GOING TO ERASE YOUR COUNTRY ! But don&#39;t worry, this nuclear program is only for civilian use.&quot;</p>
<p>Really, how dumb and incoherent can people be ? Obviously, a secret urge to destroy a country would imply that Ahmadinejad refrains from publicly advocating a holocaust. If he did, then his whole plan would go to waste. Use your head dammit !</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The whole point of Ross&#039; appointment is because Israel DOES NOT want a fixed Iran-US relations. Can you imagine if US had to rely on Iran for regional security? The entire arab world also would hate that as well. Iran&#039;s oil and gas fields would threaten their interests and not to mention Russia as well. A pipeline from Iran through Turkey to europe could render Russia useless and threaten its interests in the region. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many countries interest are at stake here. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of Ross&#39; appointment is because Israel DOES NOT want a fixed Iran-US relations. Can you imagine if US had to rely on Iran for regional security? The entire arab world also would hate that as well. Iran&#39;s oil and gas fields would threaten their interests and not to mention Russia as well. A pipeline from Iran through Turkey to europe could render Russia useless and threaten its interests in the region. </p>
<p>Many countries interest are at stake here. </p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Off-topic: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/01/30/france-says-israel-blocks-water-equipment-for-gaza/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;France says Israel blocks water equipment for Gaza&lt;/a&gt; What is the security justification behind this? Does cholera-free water constitute a terrorist threat? I would like to see an unblinkered analysis of Israeli efforts to derail humanitarian assistance to Gaza.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic: <a href="http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/01/30/france-says-israel-blocks-water-equipment-for-gaza/" rel="nofollow">France says Israel blocks water equipment for Gaza</a> What is the security justification behind this? Does cholera-free water constitute a terrorist threat? I would like to see an unblinkered analysis of Israeli efforts to derail humanitarian assistance to Gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;&lt;i&gt;Ahmadinejad never called for Israel&#039;s physical destruction; rather, he prophetized the end of the Zionist regime.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Actually, it is even more distant from Ahmadi Najad than that! That was not even his thoughts or his words. When he said that he was merely quoting Khomeini&#039;s prophesy of the end of the Zionist regime. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;<i>Ahmadinejad never called for Israel&#39;s physical destruction; rather, he prophetized the end of the Zionist regime.</i>&quot;</p>
<p>Actually, it is even more distant from Ahmadi Najad than that! That was not even his thoughts or his words. When he said that he was merely quoting Khomeini&#39;s prophesy of the end of the Zionist regime. </p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gaza assault a dress rehersal for an attack on Iran?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21878.htm&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaza assault a dress rehersal for an attack on Iran?</p>
<p>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21878.htm</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On  CSPAN this morning they had a very rational nuanced guy, totally honest about the I-P situation, and not giving the Pals any leeway as to the terrorist constitution of HAMAS, who represented the American Arab Anti-Defamation Council. He was ASAP followed by a representative from The Israel Project, who was an outright liar&lt;br /&gt;
about the history of the region, and the minutia of fact sequence going down to the attack on GZA. The guy was such a liar it left me&lt;br /&gt;
speech-bound most of today. Totally one-sided narrative, and if you didn&#039;t believe everything he said, you were clearly anti-semitic and un-American. So much for &quot;fair and balanced&quot; and &quot;context.&quot; Gaza destruction, for example, is only due to Palestinian rocket attacks. Nothing else. Zero, zilch. The Israel Project said if you don&#039;t believe him you are the problem the USA has to fight against. Similar on alleged facts, sequences, history of the area. He was really strident, harsh, his whole body shaking&lt;br /&gt;
as he loudly lied outright over and over.... God, it was depressing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Going to be very hard to get the truth of the matter out to average Americans. I don&#039;t think it will ever get there until&lt;br /&gt;
after we are in a battle with Iran and other nations that find in the&lt;br /&gt;
end Iran is more useful to them than USAIsrael. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The mother of battles is coming. It has very much to do with&lt;br /&gt;
Zionist jews. Americans are tools of the first order and their&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;democratically elected&quot; government is a collective traitor, bought &lt;br /&gt;
off by American Jewish network to this end (not all American Jews). The crazy goy end-timers in cahoots are off the charts--&lt;br /&gt;
zealot nuts in the old sense of the term. Useful tools too. Nothing like 30 million evangelicals with their eyes focused on heaven partnering with the bulk of the world-wide jewish community who focus on this earth.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On  CSPAN this morning they had a very rational nuanced guy, totally honest about the I-P situation, and not giving the Pals any leeway as to the terrorist constitution of HAMAS, who represented the American Arab Anti-Defamation Council. He was ASAP followed by a representative from The Israel Project, who was an outright liar<br />
about the history of the region, and the minutia of fact sequence going down to the attack on GZA. The guy was such a liar it left me<br />
speech-bound most of today. Totally one-sided narrative, and if you didn&#39;t believe everything he said, you were clearly anti-semitic and un-American. So much for &quot;fair and balanced&quot; and &quot;context.&quot; Gaza destruction, for example, is only due to Palestinian rocket attacks. Nothing else. Zero, zilch. The Israel Project said if you don&#39;t believe him you are the problem the USA has to fight against. Similar on alleged facts, sequences, history of the area. He was really strident, harsh, his whole body shaking<br />
as he loudly lied outright over and over&#8230;. God, it was depressing.</p>
<p>Going to be very hard to get the truth of the matter out to average Americans. I don&#39;t think it will ever get there until<br />
after we are in a battle with Iran and other nations that find in the<br />
end Iran is more useful to them than USAIsrael. </p>
<p>The mother of battles is coming. It has very much to do with<br />
Zionist jews. Americans are tools of the first order and their<br />
&quot;democratically elected&quot; government is a collective traitor, bought <br />
off by American Jewish network to this end (not all American Jews). The crazy goy end-timers in cahoots are off the charts&#8211;<br />
zealot nuts in the old sense of the term. Useful tools too. Nothing like 30 million evangelicals with their eyes focused on heaven partnering with the bulk of the world-wide jewish community who focus on this earth.</p>
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