When 3 is larger than 550

by Philip Weiss on January 5, 2009 · 19 comments

From an analysis in tomorrow's Haaretz::

From Hamas' perspective, the Sajaiyeh incident that left 3 IDF troops dead Monday is a significant first achievement. For the first time, Israeli TV broadcasts raised the question of whether it was worthwhile for the operation to continue….
With the Palestinians already having suffered 550 dead and 2,700 injured, the Sajaiyeh incident is the first revenge by the people of Gaza. Until that incident last night, it seemed as if Hamas' distress was pushing it toward a diplomatic solution.

From Jules Rabin, in a piece submitted days ago to the Marshfield, VT, newspaper:

When a certain Rabbi Perin said, in a funeral eulogy for an American-born Israeli who had been beaten to death by a Palestinian mob, "A million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail," the world was shocked and the Israeli Prime Minister himself denounced the statement. The murdered Israeli was Baruch Goldstein, who on February 28, 1994, had stepped into a mosque carrying an assault rifle, and killed 29 Palestinian men and boys before his gun jammed….

Now in Gaza, a more modest version of the stunning ratio suggested by Rabbi Perin, the million and the one, is being enacted.

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{ 19 comments }

1 MRW. January 6, 2009 at 1:41 am

Typical of Israelis to advance that argument. What do you expect?

2 A blogger from Lebanon January 6, 2009 at 2:22 am

Hamas was distressed? Where do Israelis come up with such hilarious items from? And are they sure they're not distressed like Hezbollah was in July 2006?

3 A blogger from Lebanon January 6, 2009 at 2:33 am

"Cleared for publication: Three IDF soldiers were killed and 24 others were injured, one critically and three seriously on Monday evening, in a friendly fire incident in northern Gaza. "

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3651165,00.html

Aw, yup. Friendly fire. The Hamas murderous Goliaths are so incompetent they haven't managed to kill one Israeli soldier yet. Those who have died and injured have died or been injured either by friendly fire or "cold weather injuries" (the first time I hear an army use this term to describe its casualties). Next we'll hear that soldiers were killed of scorpion and snake bites. Of course, we all know that snakes and scorpions in Gaza are an existential threat to Israel and must therefore be eradicated to ensure the safety and security of Sderot. There are no Hamas fighters in Gaza, they have all been killed, in their thousands by the heroes fo the Israeli air force. Don't believe what you see on TV, it's all Pallywood, they have shrunk the Hamas terrorists in order to give Israel a bad name, pretending that the dead are babies… Cleared for publication. The military censor has finally approved to publish the truth…. uff. Now we can sit back and relax and enjoy the fireworks, knowing that the Israeli army's in control and all the casualties will be not at the hands of the "sandniggers" but by friendly fire. And who would've thought, the Jewish state, which supposedly ensures the security and safety and continuity of the Jewish people — individually and collectively — would be the very place where Jews would be killing Jews (in the name of their Jewish state)? Or would be dying of "cold weather injuries"?

4 Richard Witty January 6, 2009 at 3:19 am

Its not proportional.

But, it IS a fact that targeting civilians is nothing benign, nothing acceptable.

5 milosevic January 6, 2009 at 4:30 am

Zionazis Make Irresistable Offer

quote:

Dear Citizens of Gaza,

I think perhaps we should accept your bargain. 500 terrorists for every Israeli life. So we should count up every Israeli killed at the hands of Hamas so far, and then take 500 of yours for each one. You drive a hard bargain, but you've got yourself a deal.

This is the same deal that the Nazis offered to those who rejected their initial proposal of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

I think it's great that these people can keep on learning from the example set by their ideological predecessors.

6 milosevic January 6, 2009 at 4:43 am

Zionazis Make Irresistable Offer

quote:

Dear Citizens of Gaza,

I think perhaps we should accept your bargain. 500 terrorists for every Israeli life. So we should count up every Israeli killed at the hands of Hamas so far, and then take 500 of yours for each one. You drive a hard bargain, but you've got yourself a deal.

This is the same deal that the Nazis offered to those who rejected their initial proposal of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

I think it's great that these people can keep on learning from the example set by their ideological predecessors.

7 A blogger from Lebanon January 6, 2009 at 4:44 am

They bombed a UNRWA school, killing 5 Palestinian civilians who had taken refuge there after losing their homes in indiscriminate Israeli bombardment.
An UNRWA school, for goodness' sake. About time the UN got a spine.
On al-Jazeera yesterday & today, a senior director at Amnesty International, Claudio Cordone, said that Israel had violated every known Convention dealing with the protection of civilians, and that it must therefore be held responsible for these war crimes.
On CNN Europe a while ago, an Islamophobic report which talks about how the Muslim population of Europe has grown (if anyone had said the same about the "growth" of the Jewish population in Europe, they would've been suspected of being anti-Semites) and that Muslims are exerting "influence" on European governments and determining foreign policy……….. I say Islamophobic because what was said is far from true, and the way it was presented came off as really racist…. Certainly if anyone had said the same about the "growth" of the Jewish population of the U.S, they would have been suspected by many — not least of all by the very same people who are broadcasting such stupid "facts" as this report on CNN — as being racist. Let alone talking about a population group exerting "influence" on governments and foreign policy when this is far from being the case. Last I checked, none of the European states had made any efforts to stop Israel's war crimes, and not because they can't. Most haven't even spoken out against it, and those that have (like the Spanish Prime Minister (?)), have phrased it in terms of what is in Israel's interests and not in terms of the immorality of the slaughter of civilians. That would be the equivalent of a Muslim American saying that 9/11 should not have taken place because it could end up hurting al-Qa'ida, rather than because of the immorality of killing civilians, and the impact that the attack would have on Muslim civilians as was indeed the case in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am sure that a Muslim American saying that 9/11 should not have taken place because it would end up hurting al-Qa'ida's interests, would have gone down too well with Americans……………

8 A blogger from Lebanon January 6, 2009 at 5:08 am

Israelis and their fellow ostrich supporters are a couple of days behind on the developments on the ground. Yesterday Hamas's military wing anounced it had killed another 3 Israeli soldiers it had fooled and then ambushed. Israelis, who have kept on saying that so far only one Israeli soldier killed in battles contrary to Hamas's allegations, kept denying that, just as they kept (and keep on) denying Hamas's other allegations of capture of soldiers and killing of a good number of others and the damage or destruction of a number of tanks and armored APCs, a helicopter, and a drone. Today Israel admitted that 3 soldiers had been killed, but insisted that they had been killed in friendly fire, at the same time as, in genuine zionist doublespeak, they did not "rule out" that they could have been killed by enemy fire. Read between the lines, that's what you must do to understand the extent of the "victories" achieved by the Heroes of the Chosen People (TM).
Yesterday I said that that Palestinian Resistance had launched a rocket at Gedera, and zionists opted to stick their heads into the sand and console themselves by thinking that it was wishful thinking on my part or random stuff I was coming up with. A day after the rocket hit Gedera, the military censor finds the courage to allow the Israeli press to publish the information. So rockets did indeed fall on Gedera yesterday, just as Hamas's armed wing, Kata'ib Izz el-Deen al-Qassam had announced.

9 A blogger from Lebanon January 6, 2009 at 5:19 am

"Cleared for publication: An IDF officer was killed in north Gaza during the early hours of Tuesday morning, possibly by an errant tank shell fired in an area where Israeli paratroopers are operating."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3651321,00.html

Oops, yup, another one killed by friendly fire. This time it happened to be an officer.
Of course, no Hamas fighters in Gaza, they're just hiding, or they all escaped by hand gliders into the Sinai. Or something.
Wonder when we'll hear zionist deaths in the dozens by unfortunate snake-biting incidents. Or maybe it will be road accidents. Or something like that.
Well, at least this one was "cleared for publication"! Wondering what ISN'T cleared for publication. Wondering why Peres was behaving as if he had seen a ghost, could it be he had seen the bodies piled up high in the Soroka freezers? What's the matter, the land of the free cannot allow its journalists enough freedom to report on the real number of casualties? What's the matter, afraid that it would cause more fear and panic among the already-cowardly and panic-stricken soldiers?

10 Ricarda Wittone January 6, 2009 at 6:17 am

Its not proportional.

But, it IS a fact that targeting civilians is nothing benign, nothing acceptable.

End Game in the Gaza War?

Hamas’ strategic miscalculation in rejecting an extension to a six-month truce with Israel was a gift on a “golden platter” to Israel, as Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit wryly noted. The Israeli security establishment has been intent since its flawed 2006 war in Lebanon to reassert Israel’s hegemony and its deterrent power. But the attack on Gaza may also have deeper causes. Lost in most of the coverage is the fact that the Israel-Hamas truce was working—a fact fully acknowledged in a recent intelligence report released by Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA). According to that report, “Hamas was careful to maintain the ceasefire.” Furthermore, “the lull was sporadically violated by rocket and mortar shell fire carried out by rogue terrorist organizations in some instances in defiance of Hamas.”

Yet on November 4, when the world was focused on the U.S. presidential election, Israel effectively ended the “period of relative quiet” to which the MFA report refers by attacking Gaza, killing at least six Palestinian militiamen. Hamas responded to the killings with salvos of rockets. Israel believed that the group was planning to abduct Israeli soldiers through a tunnel it was digging near a border security fence, but whether Hamas wished to risk a successful truce and the possibility of political progress in order to abduct Israeli soldiers is debatable.

The extensive report released by the MFA acknowledges that most of the rockets and mortar shells fired at Israel during the six-month lull fell after November 4.

11 Richard Witty January 6, 2009 at 6:40 am

The cease-fire was working.

In spite of the hope that the crossings would be unmanaged borders, there was considerable trade occurring through them, much moreso than when the region is in a state of war (before and after).

Israel should have acknowledged more that Hamas had kept its word for the most during that period.

The spin-out DID occur after the formal cease-fire period. Israel's "violation" of physically observing weapons smuggling through tunnels and a small action to confront it, is perhaps a "violation".

And, in response, Hamas DID similarly "violate" the cease-fire by a small volume of rocket-fire, and directed into the desert.

But, after that exchange, Hamas committed to resuming rocket fire at a high volume, with increased accuracy (at least when they used the imported rockets) which they communicated in public statements was permanent status.

Thats when Israel rationally concluded "enough is enough".

There is no way to spin that as Israel violating the cease-fire.

There was no agreement at a table, that each could clarify exactly what was meant.

And, it is an unreasonable hope that Israel would allow "open" border crossings, as if there were no border, and as if they communities were in a state of profound trusting peace.

12 amerhhh January 6, 2009 at 7:15 am

The idea of migration to escape persecution and to reestablish oneself is central to Prophet Muhammad’s life and to the experience of the early Muslim community. I wish Muslim leaders open their borders and let the Palestinians escape the terror they are living in. For a sustainable migration plan I hope Muslim leaders build a modern day Medina that provides a safe haven for all Muslims living under persecution. Review and comment on the short article Medina2009 at http://medina2009.blogspot.com

13 kassandra January 6, 2009 at 7:44 am

Considering that "the lights onto the nations" managed to injure about 50 amongst themselves when they were practicing for this massacre, no doubt this trend does continue. No doubt Hamas helps it along. A dead zio is a dead zio is a dead zio.

14 Rowan Berkeley January 6, 2009 at 7:49 am

"amerhhh", one point for creative hasbara effort.

15 anonn January 6, 2009 at 8:38 am

Maybe even a 1.5 point for hasbara in the way amerhhh places the blame on arabs outside the land Israel wants to keep grabbing, and in the way amerhhh tell us the Pals could care less about the land
of their forefathers and only desire to escape the terror they have brought upon themselves simply by being born.

16 Ricarda Wittone January 6, 2009 at 8:47 am

In spite of the hope that the crossings would be unmanaged borders, there was considerable trade occurring through them, much moreso than when the region is in a state of war (before and after).

Inimitably Richard Witty.

In spite of nothing left but hope behind closed borders there was extensive trade. But these dumbheads are easy to instigate. Kill some of them and the rest of the terrorists will react. They never miss and opportunity to provide us with opportunities. A military superpower MUST dictate the rules. … Otherwise the "mice dance on its nose".

The problem about the terrorist threat is that it can be created so easily, if you cash in your enemies' hope.

Yet, the already decrepit Gaza infrastructure will be in rubble, and the reestablishment of public order will be a formidable challenge for Hamas, even if the group remains in nominal control of Gaza. There is also the very real possibility that more extreme Islamists groups will strengthen, vying with Hamas for control (as they already do in Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon)

New? No, business as usual.

17 Gigi Amoroso January 6, 2009 at 10:35 am

In a non-related news Steven Spielberg is expected to start working on a Rachel Corrie biopic.
'World needs to see it' proclaims famous director. The tragic story about precious IDF heavy equipment being recklessly damaged by a misguided pacifist is 'a powerfull metaphor for our times'…

18 LanceThruster January 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm

Re: Gigi – This is epic news. It's possible that Spielberg figured out what is really going in when he took so much flak about "Munich" for even daring to offer the Palestinian perspective (however marginally).

19 stevieb January 6, 2009 at 12:46 pm

"There is no way to spin that as Israel violating the cease-fire."

True. It's simply the truth that Israel violated the cease-fire.

No need to spin.

Observe Richard Witty – spinning himself dizzy, lol….

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