Comments on: Nowhere to run (350 Gazans gathered at school hit by airstrike)

By: Jim Haygood

Jim Haygood — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Once again, the contemptuous Israeli predilection for destroying hated foreign symbols — the USS Liberty, the American school in Gaza, now the UN school in Gaza — in on nauseating display.

How long before these vile assaults are answered in the proper manner — by cutting off funding and arms sales to the world's most dangerous aggressor state?

By: Jim Haygood

Jim Haygood — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Unlike the Lebanese, many of whom were able to get into their cars and head north and east [some only to be murdered from the air], Gazans have no such option.

How far is too far? If Israel starts ... excuse me, CONTINUES blowing up apartment buildings, killing dozens at a time, will THAT be enough?

If the death toll reaches 5,000 instead of 500, will THAT be enough?

These atrocities are reaching, at the minimum, a Milosevichian scale. Where are the International Criminal Court indictments of 'Slobo' Barak and 'Ratka' Livni? Or do the ICC work for 'the Quartet'?

By: anlo

anlo — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

JH, you raise an important point: double standards.

The attacks on Gaza amount to war crimes and should be dealt with as such.

Israel's political and military leaders should be delivered up to The Hague for a reckoning.

Sadly, fat fcking chance...

By: Kaveh

Kaveh — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I don't get it what is israel doing other than , what are they trying to accomplish, if they are trying to stop the rockets hamas is firing then they have failed because all this bombs they are droping on gaza and killing children who have nothing do to with hamas is not helping israel .

By: A blogger from Lebanon

A blogger from Lebanon — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I said they would do it, didn't I? These people who had taken shelter there, should've known better. The sad part is, by taking shelter there, they had assumed that there was anything off-bound to Israelis, which is an assumption of the existence of some moral boundaries within which even the zionist state functions... of course, that was a stupid assumption, but then, with nowhere else to go, I probably would've tried my luck there too, if I were in their shoes. Israel proves to any doubters out there that it has no respect for any boundaries. Not that the events of the past week weren't sufficient, but it seems that some people wear some pretty thick blinders on.

By: S Kneedler

S Kneedler — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Great analysis of Zionist brain-washing and overcoming it:

The Real Estate War in Gaza
The History and "Morals" of Ethnic Cleansing

By VICTORIA BUCH

I arrived in Israel 40 years ago. It took me many years to understand that the very existence of my country, as it is today, is based on an ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The project started many years ago. Its seed can be traced to the basic fallacy of the Zionist movement, which set out to establish a Jewish-national state in a location already inhabited by another nation. Under these conditions, one has, at most, a moral right to strive for a bi-national state; establishing a national state implies, more or less by definition, ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.

Albert Einstein grasped this fallacy a long time ago. A short time after WWI "Einstein complained that the Zionists were not doing enough to reach agreement with the Palestinian Arabs…He favored a binational solution in Palestine and warned Chaim Weizmann against `Prussian style` nationalism"[1]

http://www.counterpunch.org/buch01062009.html

See also
http://www.alternet.org/audits/116855/?page=entire

By: A blogger from Lebanon

A blogger from Lebanon — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

next up is Shifa hospital. mark my words. mark my words. they will once again say it was an errant shell. israel gets away with its mass-murder and genocide ==> israel will continue doing what it loves doing most.

By: kassandra

kassandra — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I would like to commend CNN International. For the past three hours I've been listening; only one IDF propaganda person, and he was cut off after 20 seconds. They've had a series of well-spoken people telling the Palestinian story. Many people from the UN; the editor of al-Quds in London; Reza Aolam, author, excellent; HelpUPA's Badawi, again excellent. They are now explaining how one can donate to Palestinian charities, see CNN.com/Impact. Imagine that, on a US-based network.

BBC World just keeps on "interviewing" spokespersons for the IDF massacre machine, and saying "Thank you very much for your time."

By: S Kneedler

S Kneedler — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

To Leila Abu-Saba: imperialists always project their OWN barbarous savagery on the "barbarians" and "savages" they kill, enslave, and oppress, just as the English did to the Welsh, Irish, Scots:
the English branded those they Occupied with stereotypes like "fighting Irish."
Nationalism is just as dangerous as colonialism and leads to it.

Just as I was about to post this, I found this memorable essay that makes a similar point, better with MUCH else;
Buch beautifully describes seeing beyond Zionist lies.

The Real Estate War in Gaza
The History and "Morals" of Ethnic Cleansing

By VICTORIA BUCH

http://www.counterpunch.org/buch01062009.html

[I]nstead of "thwarting an existential danger", in 1967 the State of Israel carried out an effective military operation to acquire some real estate. There is nothing new about that "existential danger" propaganda. Acquisition of real estate by conquest has been already called pleasing names by various other conquerors and occupiers, throughout the old and new history: such as "manifest destiny", "white man's burden", "spreading true religion / culture / democracy", whatnot.'

'Most Israeli Jews have convinced themselves that they have a moral right to expropriate and expel Palestinians because Palestinians are such barbarians, who did not respond to Israel's"generous peace offers" and "only wanted to throw us to the sea". Because we are a nation of Holocaust survivors. My compatriots imagined themselves starring in a modern version of Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" - starring as beautiful elves, of course, who were forced by sad fate to fight ugly goblins the Palestinians (goblins = "terrorists"). Human mercy does not apply to "terrorists". You do not make territorial compromises or peace agreements with "terrorists".'

By: Tommy

Tommy — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Last night at the end of story about the horrific conditions at a hospital in Gaza on one of the network news programs, the news reader quoted an Israeli official as saying the hospital was harboring Hamas militants. Expect that hospital to be blown up with American made weapons today.