Comments on: Israel finally comes face to face with Gaza http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 06:32:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Lysander http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38337 Lysander Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38337 <p>Is it possible? Hey, its all Hamas' fault. With that rational, they can shut out everything else.</p> <p>Kudos to the correspondent, though. I bet he'll be getting tons of hate mail.</p> Is it possible? Hey, its all Hamas' fault. With that rational, they can shut out everything else.

Kudos to the correspondent, though. I bet he'll be getting tons of hate mail.

]]> By: Grumpy Old Man http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38338 Grumpy Old Man Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38338 <p>The main's wail is the most heart-rending thing I've ever heard. </p> <p>Lord have mercy.</p> The main's wail is the most heart-rending thing I've ever heard.

Lord have mercy.

]]> By: D. http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38339 D. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38339 <p>What exactly is taking place in the video? There was no live conversation, am I correct? The man's family had already been killed. Yet the journalist is holding a cell-phone, presumably for dramatic effect? And then, "building up the sense of drama, cameras followed him as left the studio, saying he would try to help arrange for [the survivors] transfer for treatment, and safety, in Israel." And now for a word from our sponsors.</p> <p>We just watched what is essentially a snuff film. Pornography from the masters of the art.<br /> </p> What exactly is taking place in the video? There was no live conversation, am I correct? The man's family had already been killed. Yet the journalist is holding a cell-phone, presumably for dramatic effect? And then, "building up the sense of drama, cameras followed him as left the studio, saying he would try to help arrange for [the survivors] transfer for treatment, and safety, in Israel." And now for a word from our sponsors.

We just watched what is essentially a snuff film. Pornography from the masters of the art.

]]> By: dana http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38340 dana Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38340 <p>This is absolutely heart breaking. The anchor on TV and the reporter who talked to the doctor were visibly shaken. One does not need to know hebrew to hear the anguish. Several children dead, others wounded, possibly fatally. An entire family wiped out (reminds me of one of the pro-israel demonstrators interviewed by max Blumenthal: "They should all be wiped out", she said. In the video we can hear what this means. Something tells me that demonstrator would still not be moved...)</p> <p>Could it be that israelis hearts have turned to stone and we didn't realize? and what of their army of apologizers? Tom friedman, Jeff Goldberg, Martyn Indyk, Richard Haas, Abe Foxman, all the rest?</p> <p>So now we do know what it took to cleanse native people from their lands. What justifications the Hutus had in Rwanda as they wielded their machettes. What grim determination to "finish the job". What we never could have believed - in our wildest dreams - is that Jews could do it too. Worse yet, that it would be a majority of israelis and no small number of jews around the world.</p> This is absolutely heart breaking. The anchor on TV and the reporter who talked to the doctor were visibly shaken. One does not need to know hebrew to hear the anguish. Several children dead, others wounded, possibly fatally. An entire family wiped out (reminds me of one of the pro-israel demonstrators interviewed by max Blumenthal: "They should all be wiped out", she said. In the video we can hear what this means. Something tells me that demonstrator would still not be moved…)

Could it be that israelis hearts have turned to stone and we didn't realize? and what of their army of apologizers? Tom friedman, Jeff Goldberg, Martyn Indyk, Richard Haas, Abe Foxman, all the rest?

So now we do know what it took to cleanse native people from their lands. What justifications the Hutus had in Rwanda as they wielded their machettes. What grim determination to "finish the job". What we never could have believed – in our wildest dreams – is that Jews could do it too. Worse yet, that it would be a majority of israelis and no small number of jews around the world.

]]> By: jim byers http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38341 jim byers Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38341 <p>This is one of the poems of Frederick Ruckert that Gustav Mahler set. It is called Kindertotenlieder or lament of a child's death. Very moving, we should all listen and be sad.</p> <p>1. "Nun will die Sonn' so hell aufgeh'n"<br /> "Now the sun will rise as brightly as if nothing terrible had happened during the night. The awful thing happened only to me, but the sun shines equally on everyone. You must fold the night into yourself, and immerse it in eternal light. A little star went out in my heaven! Greetings to the joyful light of the world."</p> This is one of the poems of Frederick Ruckert that Gustav Mahler set. It is called Kindertotenlieder or lament of a child's death. Very moving, we should all listen and be sad.

1. "Nun will die Sonn' so hell aufgeh'n"
"Now the sun will rise as brightly as if nothing terrible had happened during the night. The awful thing happened only to me, but the sun shines equally on everyone. You must fold the night into yourself, and immerse it in eternal light. A little star went out in my heaven! Greetings to the joyful light of the world."

]]> By: samuel burke http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38342 samuel burke Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38342 <p>http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_israel_lobby_takes_off_the_gloves<br /> High Life<br /> The Israel Lobby Takes Off the Gloves<br /> Posted by Taki Theodoracopulos on January 16, 2009<br /> So what’s a few hundred dead Palestinian children when Tzipi and Ehud have gained eight to ten points in the polls? They were terrorist babies, anyway. So what if the Egyptians and Saudis are ignoring them while spending millions on hookers, palaces and yachts? The Gazans don’t deserve such goodies, certainly not palaces on the Riviera. My favourite is Yigal Palmor, an Israeli spokesman, who took umbrage when Cardinal Renato Martino, a high-ranking Vatican official, compared Gaza to a concentration camp. The Israeli whined that World War II imagery was below the belt. I suppose the Cardinal should have called it a beach resort. Oy veh, one can’t trust these Wops, they’re all a bunch of anti-Semites!</p> http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_israel_lobby_takes_off_the_gloves
High Life
The Israel Lobby Takes Off the Gloves
Posted by Taki Theodoracopulos on January 16, 2009
So what’s a few hundred dead Palestinian children when Tzipi and Ehud have gained eight to ten points in the polls? They were terrorist babies, anyway. So what if the Egyptians and Saudis are ignoring them while spending millions on hookers, palaces and yachts? The Gazans don’t deserve such goodies, certainly not palaces on the Riviera. My favourite is Yigal Palmor, an Israeli spokesman, who took umbrage when Cardinal Renato Martino, a high-ranking Vatican official, compared Gaza to a concentration camp. The Israeli whined that World War II imagery was below the belt. I suppose the Cardinal should have called it a beach resort. Oy veh, one can’t trust these Wops, they’re all a bunch of anti-Semites!

]]> By: LD http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38343 LD Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38343 <p>Cue Witty saying both sides are equally suffering and equal to blame. Equal equal equal</p> Cue Witty saying both sides are equally suffering and equal to blame. Equal equal equal

]]> By: Steve http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38344 Steve Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38344 <p>Yep, no doubt that journalist is a day-um arab lover.</p> Yep, no doubt that journalist is a day-um arab lover.

]]> By: Peter D http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38345 Peter D Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38345 <p>D., this was a live call on the correspondent's cell phone (put on loudspeaker) and obviously totally unplanned. </p> D., this was a live call on the correspondent's cell phone (put on loudspeaker) and obviously totally unplanned.

]]> By: ahmed http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html/comment-page-1#comment-38346 ahmed Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/16/israel-finally-comes-face-to-face-with-gaza.html#comment-38346 <p>the doctor called his contact immediately after the shelling, so it was kind of live. apparently the attack happened minutes before he was scheduled for a call-in with the tv station. </p> the doctor called his contact immediately after the shelling, so it was kind of live. apparently the attack happened minutes before he was scheduled for a call-in with the tv station.

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