Comments on: Friedman and Goldberg play ‘good cop/bad cop’ in the ‘New York Times’ http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:18:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Joachim Martillo http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38802 Joachim Martillo Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38802 <p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/14/friedman/index.html" rel="nofollow">Friedman Aiding, Abetting Zionist terrorism</a></p> Friedman Aiding, Abetting Zionist terrorism

]]> By: Eurosabra http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38803 Eurosabra Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38803 <p><br /> Okay, so a major cleric of Hamas, heir of Rantisi and Yassin who never had a problem speaking their minds, TELLS Goldberg straight-out, we will never allow anything but a pause in our preparations to defeat you, you have no rights in Palestine, you are sub-human, those of you who survive our revenge can go back to Germany and be a curse upon Europe, and you think Hamas can be negotiated with in some way? That's POLICY, as far as Hamas is concerned.</p> <p>What triggered the Israeli "big plan" response was the tunnel and the use of long-range Grad rockets, which indicated that Hamas's goal was to kidnap soldiers AND CONTROL the ESCALATION of the WAR IN SOUTHERN ISRAEL, to Israel's immediate security detriment and eventual destruction.</p> <p>At this point, there are no good options that will preserve the State of Israel, so why aren't the Gazans happier?</p> Okay, so a major cleric of Hamas, heir of Rantisi and Yassin who never had a problem speaking their minds, TELLS Goldberg straight-out, we will never allow anything but a pause in our preparations to defeat you, you have no rights in Palestine, you are sub-human, those of you who survive our revenge can go back to Germany and be a curse upon Europe, and you think Hamas can be negotiated with in some way? That's POLICY, as far as Hamas is concerned.

What triggered the Israeli "big plan" response was the tunnel and the use of long-range Grad rockets, which indicated that Hamas's goal was to kidnap soldiers AND CONTROL the ESCALATION of the WAR IN SOUTHERN ISRAEL, to Israel's immediate security detriment and eventual destruction.

At this point, there are no good options that will preserve the State of Israel, so why aren't the Gazans happier?

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38804 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38804 <p>Phil:</p> <p>It's become apparent now that you are merely angered and saddened by Israel's military success. </p> Phil:

It's become apparent now that you are merely angered and saddened by Israel's military success.

]]> By: S Kneedler http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38805 S Kneedler Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38805 <p>Talk about Holocaust denial: I assumed as I read Phil's post that Friedman was the [insane] bad cop, and that Goldberg must have had a revelation, for how can any civilized person so cavalierly call mass murder an effort to "educate"?</p> <p>If Friedman is such a sadist, what does that make Goldberg, and what does it say the state of American civic life? Unfortunately, everyone who reads Phil's site already knows.</p> Talk about Holocaust denial: I assumed as I read Phil's post that Friedman was the [insane] bad cop, and that Goldberg must have had a revelation, for how can any civilized person so cavalierly call mass murder an effort to "educate"?

If Friedman is such a sadist, what does that make Goldberg, and what does it say the state of American civic life? Unfortunately, everyone who reads Phil's site already knows.

]]> By: MM http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38806 MM Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38806 <p>Annals of Zionist projection, Volume 425:</p> <p>Eurosabra: <i>you have no rights in Palestine, you are sub-human, those of you who survive our revenge can go back to Germany [Jordan] and be a curse upon the Europe [the Middle East], and you think Hamas [Jewish ultra-nationalists] can be negotiated with in some way?</i></p> Annals of Zionist projection, Volume 425:

Eurosabra: you have no rights in Palestine, you are sub-human, those of you who survive our revenge can go back to Germany [Jordan] and be a curse upon the Europe [the Middle East], and you think Hamas [Jewish ultra-nationalists] can be negotiated with in some way?

]]> By: S Kneedler http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38807 S Kneedler Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38807 <p>William Lind has already answered all Friedman's sociopathic ("It was not pretty, but it was logical") justifications of Israel's barbarism against Lebanon and Palestine.</p> <p>http://www.antiwar.com/lind/?articleid=14057</p> <p>Thanks, Joachim, for the link!</p> William Lind has already answered all Friedman's sociopathic ("It was not pretty, but it was logical") justifications of Israel's barbarism against Lebanon and Palestine.

http://www.antiwar.com/lind/?articleid=14057

Thanks, Joachim, for the link!

]]> By: Eurosabra http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38808 Eurosabra Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38808 <p><br /> MM: Tu quoque is an old game in the Middle East, and gets us nowhere. All that tells me is that you are the enemy.</p> MM: Tu quoque is an old game in the Middle East, and gets us nowhere. All that tells me is that you are the enemy.

]]> By: Eurosabra http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38809 Eurosabra Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38809 <p><br /> Comparable Israeli groups, like the Machteret Yehudit and Kach, which exist to strike Palestinian civilians whenever possible, based on an ideology of sole Jewish possession of the entire Land of Israel, were put down with force by the Israeli state.</p> <p>An Israeli state which shared their ideology would be the peaceful possessor of the entire Land of Israel, given the means at its disposal. Cairo under 100 feet of water is no place for the Ikhwan to marshal resistance.</p> <p>Ironically, based on my long experience of life with Palestinians, I do not think the Palestinian people as a whole could be mobilized to commit genocide, nor the Israeli-Jewish people as a whole. The problem lies in the miniaturization of the means of destruction, and the dissemination of cheap and easy technologies of violence.</p> Comparable Israeli groups, like the Machteret Yehudit and Kach, which exist to strike Palestinian civilians whenever possible, based on an ideology of sole Jewish possession of the entire Land of Israel, were put down with force by the Israeli state.

An Israeli state which shared their ideology would be the peaceful possessor of the entire Land of Israel, given the means at its disposal. Cairo under 100 feet of water is no place for the Ikhwan to marshal resistance.

Ironically, based on my long experience of life with Palestinians, I do not think the Palestinian people as a whole could be mobilized to commit genocide, nor the Israeli-Jewish people as a whole. The problem lies in the miniaturization of the means of destruction, and the dissemination of cheap and easy technologies of violence.

]]> By: Anonymous http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38810 Anonymous Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38810 <p>This is jewish religio-ideological induced brain disfunction searching instant "what's good for the jews" gratification versus the low frequency pattern recognition algorithm embedded into normal healthy human brain:</p> <p><a href="http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/node/15057#comment-62245" rel="nofollow"><b>"why are these pictures allowed to be published"</b></a>.</p> <p>Notice how the charges from the jew is that pictures are allowed to be shown (meaning americans are guilty of making her to suffer because of their indiscretion about internal jewish affairs.) And the reaction of the normal humans is to cautiously inform she is part of a greater pattern they have already noticed.</p> This is jewish religio-ideological induced brain disfunction searching instant "what's good for the jews" gratification versus the low frequency pattern recognition algorithm embedded into normal healthy human brain:

"why are these pictures allowed to be published".

Notice how the charges from the jew is that pictures are allowed to be shown (meaning americans are guilty of making her to suffer because of their indiscretion about internal jewish affairs.) And the reaction of the normal humans is to cautiously inform she is part of a greater pattern they have already noticed.

]]> By: citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html/comment-page-1#comment-38811 citizen Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/14/on-the-day-that-israeli-human-rights-organizations-are-saying-the-number-of-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-has-reached-1000-and.html#comment-38811 <p>And all you tell us, Eurosabra, is that you are not American. You are<br /> a Jewish Nazi. We need to rid ourselves of you and your ilk. </p> And all you tell us, Eurosabra, is that you are not American. You are
a Jewish Nazi. We need to rid ourselves of you and your ilk.

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