Comments on: Gushing over Bob Simon–but did he let Livni off the hook? http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 09:13:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mohammad http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36559 Mohammad Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36559 <p>Thanks Philip. It would have been impossible to fully clue in the importance of this piece without this blog. me and my friend Saied were stunned in front of TV. Then I said to myself, I bet Phil has something on this right way, and you did.</p> Thanks Philip. It would have been impossible to fully clue in the importance of this piece without this blog. me and my friend Saied were stunned in front of TV. Then I said to myself, I bet Phil has something on this right way, and you did.

]]> By: Lysander http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36560 Lysander Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36560 <p>Having been captured and tortured by Iraqis in 1991, Simon has reasons to be bitter towards Arabs, but he never has been.</p> <p>You gotta admire that. The show took courage. Gotta admire that too.</p> <p>Whether it represents the sea change in American perception remains to be seen, but I'm not holding my breath for that.</p> <p>Kudos to Simon and 60 minutes anyway, though. Any example set of rising above humanity's universal curse of tribalism is to be lauded. </p> <p>I confess, as an Arab, I struggle with the curse too.</p> Having been captured and tortured by Iraqis in 1991, Simon has reasons to be bitter towards Arabs, but he never has been.

You gotta admire that. The show took courage. Gotta admire that too.

Whether it represents the sea change in American perception remains to be seen, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

Kudos to Simon and 60 minutes anyway, though. Any example set of rising above humanity's universal curse of tribalism is to be lauded.

I confess, as an Arab, I struggle with the curse too.

]]> By: lester http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36561 lester Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36561 <p>I didn't believe Livni when she said she would remove the settlements</p> I didn't believe Livni when she said she would remove the settlements

]]> By: Rowan http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36562 Rowan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36562 <p>I never thought the wall had any other intention than to demarcate a new border, and nor did anyone else. Mind you, the wall is eminently movable, in either direction, if you don't mind spending millions of other peoples' dollars and ruining thousands of dunams of other peoples' land. The code term is 'hitkansut', which means roughly, 'gathering', meaning, gathering the Jews behind the wall. See an interesting discussion of this word and its etymology:<br /> http://www.forward.com/articles/1165/</p> I never thought the wall had any other intention than to demarcate a new border, and nor did anyone else. Mind you, the wall is eminently movable, in either direction, if you don't mind spending millions of other peoples' dollars and ruining thousands of dunams of other peoples' land. The code term is 'hitkansut', which means roughly, 'gathering', meaning, gathering the Jews behind the wall. See an interesting discussion of this word and its etymology:
link to forward.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36563 Anonymous Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36563 <p>"After Gaza: Is The Two-State Solution Dead?"</p> <p>"In the aftermath of the fighting in Gaza, observers as varied as Libyan dictator Muammar el-Qaddafi and former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton have claimed that the "two-state solution" to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is dead. Are they right? If so, what's the alternative? If they're wrong, what can the Obama administration do to resurrect the possibility of two states, one Israeli and one Palestinian, living side by side in peace -- and how much time is there left to do it?"</p> <p>-- Sydney J. Freedberg Jr., NationalJournal.com</p> <p>http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/01/after-gaza-is-two-state-solution-dead.php</p> "After Gaza: Is The Two-State Solution Dead?"

"In the aftermath of the fighting in Gaza, observers as varied as Libyan dictator Muammar el-Qaddafi and former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton have claimed that the "two-state solution" to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is dead. Are they right? If so, what's the alternative? If they're wrong, what can the Obama administration do to resurrect the possibility of two states, one Israeli and one Palestinian, living side by side in peace — and how much time is there left to do it?"

– Sydney J. Freedberg Jr., NationalJournal.com

http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/01/after-gaza-is-two-state-solution-dead.php

]]> By: Todd http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36564 Todd Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36564 <p>Simon didn't seem all that outraged to me. Yeah, he mentioned the settlers, and made it known that Palestinians have been victimized. But he glossed over the fact that almost all of Israel is on Palestinian land, and that Israel is a major burden to the world. It's just late-game spin. WooHoo!</p> Simon didn't seem all that outraged to me. Yeah, he mentioned the settlers, and made it known that Palestinians have been victimized. But he glossed over the fact that almost all of Israel is on Palestinian land, and that Israel is a major burden to the world. It's just late-game spin. WooHoo!

]]> By: Joachim Martillo http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36565 Joachim Martillo Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36565 <p>After dealing for over 10 years with the Israeli government and military industrial complex, I no longer consider rational negotiations with Zionists to be possible.</p> <p>Arabs must develop a strategy for victory.</p> <p>I don't even think it would be particularly hard if Arab intellectuals and government officials were willing to broaden the concept of Jihad to include effective media campaigns and strategic investment.</p> <p>See <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/01/saudi-patience-is-running-out.html" rel="nofollow">Time for Arabs to Win</a>.</p> After dealing for over 10 years with the Israeli government and military industrial complex, I no longer consider rational negotiations with Zionists to be possible.

Arabs must develop a strategy for victory.

I don't even think it would be particularly hard if Arab intellectuals and government officials were willing to broaden the concept of Jihad to include effective media campaigns and strategic investment.

See Time for Arabs to Win.

]]> By: Rowan http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36566 Rowan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36566 <p>Joachim, it is a bit impertinent to say,</p> <p><i>Start reading my blog. No one knows more about non-exceptionalist properly contextualized Jewish studies, Zionism studies, Israel studies and Jewish political economy since the beginning of the 19th century than I.</i></p> Joachim, it is a bit impertinent to say,

Start reading my blog. No one knows more about non-exceptionalist properly contextualized Jewish studies, Zionism studies, Israel studies and Jewish political economy since the beginning of the 19th century than I.

]]> By: Todd http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36567 Todd Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36567 <p>"After dealing for over 10 years with the Israeli government and military industrial complex, I no longer consider rational negotiations with Zionists to be possible.</p> <p>Arabs must develop a strategy for victory."</p> <p>I think Americans should reach the same conclusion about our resident Zionists, and develop our own strategy for victory.</p> "After dealing for over 10 years with the Israeli government and military industrial complex, I no longer consider rational negotiations with Zionists to be possible.

Arabs must develop a strategy for victory."

I think Americans should reach the same conclusion about our resident Zionists, and develop our own strategy for victory.

]]> By: MRW. http://mondoweiss.net/2009/01/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html/comment-page-1#comment-36568 MRW. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/01/26/simply-gushing-over-bob-simon-and-60-minutes.html#comment-36568 <p>Todd.</p> <p>After rereading Israel Shahak's short book <i>Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years</i> (1994) recently, I think people can start there. Reading Chapter Two alone is an eye-opener.</p> <p>Someone put it up on Scribd.com for a free download with registration.</p> <p>BTW, is there a Web site with all of Dr. Shahak's translations? The ones Blankfort referred to the other day?</p> Todd.

After rereading Israel Shahak's short book Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (1994) recently, I think people can start there. Reading Chapter Two alone is an eye-opener.

Someone put it up on Scribd.com for a free download with registration.

BTW, is there a Web site with all of Dr. Shahak's translations? The ones Blankfort referred to the other day?

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