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		<title>By: Sword of Gideonthe point.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sword of Gideonthe point.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still don&#039;t understand why Phil ( its charming to shoot Jews ) Weiss is still writing these polemics. Didn&#039;t he say it was all over? And didn&#039;t he feel &quot;totally fabulous&quot; about it?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#39;t understand why Phil ( its charming to shoot Jews ) Weiss is still writing these polemics. Didn&#39;t he say it was all over? And didn&#39;t he feel &quot;totally fabulous&quot; about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you read the fine print you find that 80% of americans don&#039;t give a flying fuck if every Palestinian is killed in Gaza tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;
Change is here!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the fine print you find that 80% of americans don&#39;t give a flying fuck if every Palestinian is killed in Gaza tomorrow.<br />
Change is here!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: rabbi kook</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabbi kook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t understand why SOG, aka sweet traitor fella Bill Pearlman, is still&lt;br /&gt;
dribbling juvenile pap on this blog. Hasn&#039;t Bill, through his many&lt;br /&gt;
devious sock puppets (including his totally venomous use of some real people&#039;s names) waxed euphoric playing like his comic mirror-image mentor, Julius Streicher?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t understand why SOG, aka sweet traitor fella Bill Pearlman, is still<br />
dribbling juvenile pap on this blog. Hasn&#39;t Bill, through his many<br />
devious sock puppets (including his totally venomous use of some real people&#39;s names) waxed euphoric playing like his comic mirror-image mentor, Julius Streicher?</p>
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		<title>By: rabbi kook</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabbi kook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Journalist =SOG=Bill Pearlman. He flits from PC to PC, uses fake names and real ones, just to crap on Phil&#039;s earnest Blog and the earnest comments on there, a tiny ray of hope for the future.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalist =SOG=Bill Pearlman. He flits from PC to PC, uses fake names and real ones, just to crap on Phil&#39;s earnest Blog and the earnest comments on there, a tiny ray of hope for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glenn Greenwald is a brilliant, courageous analyst and essayist. But my brain turns off when he starts analyzing public attitudes in terms of an obsolete Democratic/ Republican, left/right framework. Wrong premise, bad conclusions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On an orthogonal statist/libertarian spectrum, Demopublicans and left-rightists are all statists. They may disagree about priorities, but all believe in the might and right of the omnipotent state ... as does Saint Barack.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Von Mises&#039; principle that intervention is never effective, only breeding more intervention to correct the distortions induced by the preceding intervention, is on  vivid, dispiriting display now. Economic crisis has engendered a tidal wave of statist initiatives from the ongoing Bush and incoming Obama administrations. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The one true thing George Wallace ever said is that there ain&#039;t a dime&#039;s worth of difference between them. His real name is Barack Dubya Obama. Sorry, Glenn.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Greenwald is a brilliant, courageous analyst and essayist. But my brain turns off when he starts analyzing public attitudes in terms of an obsolete Democratic/ Republican, left/right framework. Wrong premise, bad conclusions.</p>
<p>On an orthogonal statist/libertarian spectrum, Demopublicans and left-rightists are all statists. They may disagree about priorities, but all believe in the might and right of the omnipotent state &#8230; as does Saint Barack.</p>
<p>Von Mises&#39; principle that intervention is never effective, only breeding more intervention to correct the distortions induced by the preceding intervention, is on  vivid, dispiriting display now. Economic crisis has engendered a tidal wave of statist initiatives from the ongoing Bush and incoming Obama administrations. </p>
<p>The one true thing George Wallace ever said is that there ain&#39;t a dime&#39;s worth of difference between them. His real name is Barack Dubya Obama. Sorry, Glenn.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with Phil that Glenn&#039;s analysis in brilliant. But I am not missing anything.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In fact beyond the &quot;Lobby thesis&quot;, which no doubt is part of the larger scenario, I am--as German--enamored with the following imagery.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try to visualize two records, one the &quot;clean slate&quot; with the good America has done one the &quot;dirty slate&quot;. As a German it feels WWII is a powerful item on the clean side and this item is heavily connected with &quot;the Jews&quot; and ultimately Israel. This is a deep bond and a valuable offer to the American mind the lobby has to offer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As it has been pointed out by annotators/commentators deep down their may well be a shared settlement mentality?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Phil that Glenn&#39;s analysis in brilliant. But I am not missing anything.</p>
<p>In fact beyond the &quot;Lobby thesis&quot;, which no doubt is part of the larger scenario, I am&#8211;as German&#8211;enamored with the following imagery.</p>
<p>Try to visualize two records, one the &quot;clean slate&quot; with the good America has done one the &quot;dirty slate&quot;. As a German it feels WWII is a powerful item on the clean side and this item is heavily connected with &quot;the Jews&quot; and ultimately Israel. This is a deep bond and a valuable offer to the American mind the lobby has to offer.</p>
<p>As it has been pointed out by annotators/commentators deep down their may well be a shared settlement mentality?</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;then the opposite a &quot;dirty slate&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry. I should take more care, and at least reread what I wrote once.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then the opposite a &quot;dirty slate&quot;.</p>
<p>Sorry. I should take more care, and at least reread what I wrote once.</p>
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		<title>By: nitwittie</title>
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		<dc:creator>nitwittie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(including his totally venomous use of some real people&#039;s names) &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He is training your perception beyond what the name suggests.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(including his totally venomous use of some real people&#39;s names) </i></p>
<p>He is training your perception beyond what the name suggests.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally, I find Greenwald priggish and dull.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find Greenwald priggish and dull.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Condell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Condell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;Yes, I&#039;m mindreading--Glenn, when are you and I going to talk about this?&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I for one would pay good money for a seat at that one. Greenwald has been fantastic in recent years on a range of issues, but can&#039;t go the whole hog and recognise the Dems as part of the problem, rather than his cherished conception of them as the potential solution. As the real Jim noted, the left/right dichotomy is for Greenwald almost as central as it is for Ed, and that lens tends to fog things up nowadays.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;Yes, I&#39;m mindreading&#8211;Glenn, when are you and I going to talk about this?&#39;</p>
<p>I for one would pay good money for a seat at that one. Greenwald has been fantastic in recent years on a range of issues, but can&#39;t go the whole hog and recognise the Dems as part of the problem, rather than his cherished conception of them as the potential solution. As the real Jim noted, the left/right dichotomy is for Greenwald almost as central as it is for Ed, and that lens tends to fog things up nowadays.</p>
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