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		<title>By: Dan Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m starting to believe...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m starting to believe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sword of Gideonthe point.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sword of Gideonthe point.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But wait, I thought that according to &quot;Pig Weiss&quot; this couldn&#039;t possibly happen. That the Jewish Lobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    controlled well, everything. How can this be. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wait, I thought that according to &quot;Pig Weiss&quot; this couldn&#39;t possibly happen. That the Jewish Lobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    controlled well, everything. How can this be. </p>
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		<title>By: seethelight</title>
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		<dc:creator>seethelight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dan,  I&#039;m starting to believe, too. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The appointment of Chas Freeman, an accomplished diplomat, is a brilliant choice by Obama. It sends an unmistakeable message to Israel&#039;s new government as well as the Israel Lobby: The US will make decisions in the ME and Gulf region based on national interests first and foremost. Just like it does in the rest of the world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile Freeman&#039;s once-removed predecessor at the NIC, Richard Perle, is out denying he&#039;s a neoconservative and that neoconservatives had anything to do with the US invading Iraq. His audience just laughed at him.  Talk about irrelevancy. Read it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/19/AR2009021903332_pf.html&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,  I&#39;m starting to believe, too. </p>
<p>The appointment of Chas Freeman, an accomplished diplomat, is a brilliant choice by Obama. It sends an unmistakeable message to Israel&#39;s new government as well as the Israel Lobby: The US will make decisions in the ME and Gulf region based on national interests first and foremost. Just like it does in the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Freeman&#39;s once-removed predecessor at the NIC, Richard Perle, is out denying he&#39;s a neoconservative and that neoconservatives had anything to do with the US invading Iraq. His audience just laughed at him.  Talk about irrelevancy. Read it here: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/19/AR2009021903332_pf.html</p>
<p>&#8220;>link to washingtonpost.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;My message to American Jews: We can jump on the third rail too! In fact, when we jump on it that does even more to neutralize it.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Within the New York City Transit Authority, there&#039;s an elite &#039;Club 600&#039; -- folks who touched the 600-volt third rail and lived to tell about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Phil Weiss is an honorary member of Club 600, for damned sure. Keep on electrifying us, my man.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;My message to American Jews: We can jump on the third rail too! In fact, when we jump on it that does even more to neutralize it.&#39;</p>
<p>Within the New York City Transit Authority, there&#39;s an elite &#39;Club 600&#39; &#8212; folks who touched the 600-volt third rail and lived to tell about it.</p>
<p>Phil Weiss is an honorary member of Club 600, for damned sure. Keep on electrifying us, my man.</p>
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		<title>By: syvanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>syvanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are definitely confusing signals coming from Obama.  Freeman appointment sounds good if that is a sign that the administration is willing to pursue America&#039;s best interests in the ME. But then in the post above this one, is the story about Dennis Ross -- a man whose loyalty likely lies with Israel -- being given the Iran portfolio. Phil&#039;s optimism is difficult to share.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are definitely confusing signals coming from Obama.  Freeman appointment sounds good if that is a sign that the administration is willing to pursue America&#39;s best interests in the ME. But then in the post above this one, is the story about Dennis Ross &#8212; a man whose loyalty likely lies with Israel &#8212; being given the Iran portfolio. Phil&#39;s optimism is difficult to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Dennis Ross appointment is really, really bad. He&#039;s the poster child for dual loyalty. In fact, dual loyalty is too kind. He&#039;s interested first and foremeost in Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dennis Ross appointment is really, really bad. He&#39;s the poster child for dual loyalty. In fact, dual loyalty is too kind. He&#39;s interested first and foremeost in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin Nombre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin Nombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that&#039;s really dismaying is that this Rosen character still appears to be openly welcome in what seems mainstream jewish channels. (E.g., the JTA.) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Under indictment for what in my opinion essentially amounts to betraying the United States, and he&#039;s still openly so welcomed and cited? And, moreover, when his defense so far at least appears to be not that he didn&#039;t do it, but instead that everyone else does it too? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like someone to tell me how this doesn&#039;t essentially amount to openly giving the finger of disdain to non-jewish Americans. So *what* if everyone else does it (which is dubious anyway); that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not a betrayal. Nor do I see anyone else openly embracing any of those others who supposedly have done it either. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Appears to me you have to admit there can at least seem to be a kind of dual, exoteric/esoteric nature to the discourse of Israeli partisans a la Leo Strauss. To the rubes and boobs and outsiders and others who don&#039;t pay attention, yes, Israel and its enthusiasts love the U.S. and are good loyal allies and etc. and so forth. When talking amongst themselves however, esoterically, a very different understanding seems to be clearly apparent. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some threads ago Ed talked about how deep down Zionists &quot;hate&quot; gentiles and Sword of Gideonthepoint responded by saying he didn&#039;t know of any such who so hated. But what about disdain? This Rosen business, with an organization that bills itself as providing the news to the jewish people giving this guy this space to criticize the appointment of a U.S. official just offends the hell out of me. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like Mark Twain said, even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over and being kicked. How the hell do any Israeli partisans expect that non-jews aren&#039;t going to just dismiss all their comments as being of the exoteric variety, having no connection to reality or the truth or etc. except insofar as it helps preserve a false public face? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d sure like to see the JTA get some letters or comments from its U.S. jewish readers at least repudiating this platform-giving to Rosen.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that&#39;s really dismaying is that this Rosen character still appears to be openly welcome in what seems mainstream jewish channels. (E.g., the JTA.) </p>
<p>Under indictment for what in my opinion essentially amounts to betraying the United States, and he&#39;s still openly so welcomed and cited? And, moreover, when his defense so far at least appears to be not that he didn&#39;t do it, but instead that everyone else does it too? </p>
<p>I&#39;d like someone to tell me how this doesn&#39;t essentially amount to openly giving the finger of disdain to non-jewish Americans. So *what* if everyone else does it (which is dubious anyway); that doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s not a betrayal. Nor do I see anyone else openly embracing any of those others who supposedly have done it either. </p>
<p>Appears to me you have to admit there can at least seem to be a kind of dual, exoteric/esoteric nature to the discourse of Israeli partisans a la Leo Strauss. To the rubes and boobs and outsiders and others who don&#39;t pay attention, yes, Israel and its enthusiasts love the U.S. and are good loyal allies and etc. and so forth. When talking amongst themselves however, esoterically, a very different understanding seems to be clearly apparent. </p>
<p>Some threads ago Ed talked about how deep down Zionists &quot;hate&quot; gentiles and Sword of Gideonthepoint responded by saying he didn&#39;t know of any such who so hated. But what about disdain? This Rosen business, with an organization that bills itself as providing the news to the jewish people giving this guy this space to criticize the appointment of a U.S. official just offends the hell out of me. </p>
<p>Like Mark Twain said, even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over and being kicked. How the hell do any Israeli partisans expect that non-jews aren&#39;t going to just dismiss all their comments as being of the exoteric variety, having no connection to reality or the truth or etc. except insofar as it helps preserve a false public face? </p>
<p>I&#39;d sure like to see the JTA get some letters or comments from its U.S. jewish readers at least repudiating this platform-giving to Rosen.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Afraid Dan is right. Check out this Ross character.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afraid Dan is right. Check out this Ross character.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope Chas Freeman can endure what he&#039;s about to get hurled with, and that Obama has the strength to back him up.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Chas Freeman can endure what he&#39;s about to get hurled with, and that Obama has the strength to back him up.</p>
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