Comments on: Exclusion of Arab Knesset members from coalition-building is reminiscent of Mississippi in ’64 http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:44:27 +0000 hourly 1 By: samuelburke http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32664 samuelburke Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32664 <p>Rabbi Stephen Wise<br /> As late as 1943, while the Jews of Europe were being exterminated in their millions, the U.S. Congress proposed to set up a commission to "study" the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.</p> <p>This is the same Rabbi Wise who, in 1938, in his capacity as leader of the American Jewish Congress, wrote a letter in which he opposed any change in U.S. immigration laws which would enable Jews to find refuge. He stated:</p> <p>"It may interest you to know that some weeks ago the representatives of all the leading Jewish organizations met in conference. ... It was decided that no Jewish organization would, at this time, sponsor a bill which would in any way alter the immigration laws." </p> <p>..."Our Shomer 'Weltanschauung,"' Hashomer Hatzair, December 1936. Originally published in 1917, Brenner, Zionism, p. 22.</p> Rabbi Stephen Wise
As late as 1943, while the Jews of Europe were being exterminated in their millions, the U.S. Congress proposed to set up a commission to "study" the problem. Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the principal American spokesperson for Zionism, came to Washington to testify against the rescue bill because it would divert attention from the colonization of Palestine.

This is the same Rabbi Wise who, in 1938, in his capacity as leader of the American Jewish Congress, wrote a letter in which he opposed any change in U.S. immigration laws which would enable Jews to find refuge. He stated:

"It may interest you to know that some weeks ago the representatives of all the leading Jewish organizations met in conference. … It was decided that no Jewish organization would, at this time, sponsor a bill which would in any way alter the immigration laws."

…"Our Shomer 'Weltanschauung,"' Hashomer Hatzair, December 1936. Originally published in 1917, Brenner, Zionism, p. 22.

]]> By: lysias http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32665 lysias Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32665 <p>When Parnell's Irish National Party held the balance of power in Parliament in Westminster, they were allowed to determine which party would rule in the UK. That led to a great amelioration of the conditions under which Irish Catholics lived.</p> When Parnell's Irish National Party held the balance of power in Parliament in Westminster, they were allowed to determine which party would rule in the UK. That led to a great amelioration of the conditions under which Irish Catholics lived.

]]> By: BLG http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32666 BLG Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32666 <p><i>The national elections in Israel demonstrate that, at a time of war and stress, the vibrant democracy of the State of Israel has prevailed.</i></p> <p>[Insert picture of Iraqi propaganda minister, Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf]</p> The national elections in Israel demonstrate that, at a time of war and stress, the vibrant democracy of the State of Israel has prevailed.

[Insert picture of Iraqi propaganda minister, Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf]

]]> By: doug http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32667 doug Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32667 <p>It's interesting that Lieberman's party wants civil marraige and liberalizing the Rabbinates' iron control on who is a Jew re right of return. The left and the right dance around each other going nowhere.</p> It's interesting that Lieberman's party wants civil marraige and liberalizing the Rabbinates' iron control on who is a Jew re right of return. The left and the right dance around each other going nowhere.

]]> By: Suzanne http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32668 Suzanne Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32668 <p>Has a dissertation been written yet about derelict minds and the obsession to control Israel?</p> <p>Should make for an interesting read! </p> Has a dissertation been written yet about derelict minds and the obsession to control Israel?

Should make for an interesting read!

]]> By: Suzanne http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32669 Suzanne Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32669 <p>BTW--love the latest attempt to equate Israel with the Old South--since comparisons to Nazi Germany went nowhere. haha! </p> BTW–love the latest attempt to equate Israel with the Old South–since comparisons to Nazi Germany went nowhere. haha!

]]> By: Audie http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32670 Audie Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32670 <p>Suzanne, you must have been asleep during your Hasbara 101 training. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ</p> Suzanne, you must have been asleep during your Hasbara 101 training. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

]]> By: chris berel http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32671 chris berel Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32671 <p>Suzanne, who has brilliantly demolished the educated anti-israeli opinons on this forum (The uneducated such as Rowan, Martin, Lance, Eva... are best left to rot on their own)does not appear to have had any Hasbara training.</p> <p>Of course, if you can prove otherwise, please do so.</p> <p>The Arab parties, seemingly dedicated to the destruction of Israel, are understandably not being woo'd.</p> <p>But then, Rowan would ask the Tory's to woo the British Nazi party.</p> Suzanne, who has brilliantly demolished the educated anti-israeli opinons on this forum (The uneducated such as Rowan, Martin, Lance, Eva… are best left to rot on their own)does not appear to have had any Hasbara training.

Of course, if you can prove otherwise, please do so.

The Arab parties, seemingly dedicated to the destruction of Israel, are understandably not being woo'd.

But then, Rowan would ask the Tory's to woo the British Nazi party.

]]> By: Steve http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32672 Steve Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32672 <p>You have been Dugg.<br /> Check out my ideas at boomsend.wordpress.com<br /> I look forward to your comments</p> You have been Dugg.
Check out my ideas at boomsend.wordpress.com
I look forward to your comments

]]> By: Eurosabra http://mondoweiss.net/2009/02/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html/comment-page-1#comment-32673 Eurosabra Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/02/11/exclusion-of-arab-knesset-members-from-coalitionbuilding-is-reminiscent-of-mississippi-in-64.html#comment-32673 <p><br /> Those parties can't join a coalition because they oppose the fundamental nature of the state, and pay only enough lip service to it to allow them to run for Knesset. Except for Hadash, which argues for a community-blind state, Balad and Ta'al are actually Arab-nationalist and Islamist parties that argue for privileges and protections for the Arab community that are possibly incompatible with the democratic nature of the state. Balad's call for a designated national-minority status for Arabs alone raises serious issues on constitutional law that would take YEARS to adjudicate. This is not the Congressional Black Caucus, and your lack of historical knowledge and current Israeli politics causes you to frame the heirs of the DFLP/PFLP as if they were.</p> Those parties can't join a coalition because they oppose the fundamental nature of the state, and pay only enough lip service to it to allow them to run for Knesset. Except for Hadash, which argues for a community-blind state, Balad and Ta'al are actually Arab-nationalist and Islamist parties that argue for privileges and protections for the Arab community that are possibly incompatible with the democratic nature of the state. Balad's call for a designated national-minority status for Arabs alone raises serious issues on constitutional law that would take YEARS to adjudicate. This is not the Congressional Black Caucus, and your lack of historical knowledge and current Israeli politics causes you to frame the heirs of the DFLP/PFLP as if they were.

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