Gideon Levy says Zionism has died a political death; left and right are indistinguishable

Insane [Photo by AnomalousNYC from a demonstration in Union Square in New York in July 2006 during the Lebanon war that the Israeli "left," Meretz and Labor, supported]

Today's Abraham Lincoln's 200th birthday. Lincoln's achievement was chiefly political: he took a corrupt and fragmented political system and grew a mighty oak of resistance in the heart of it, and that resistance was called the Republican Party-abolition. In his beautiful speeches, Lincoln said to his audience, If you are for the right to have slaves in Kansas, then you do not belong here! And by doing this he resuscitated the American dream of equality and freedom that he knew had been sacrificed.

Gideon Levy is undertaking that political work with a great column in Haaretz about the end of Zionism. The liberation ideology of 120 years ago has collapsed in a political dead-end: it lost diversity, when it lost the left to anti-Arabism. A leftwing party, Meretz, supported two disgusting slaughters (Lebanon, Gaza). Laborite Ehud Barak said that the Palestinians are no true partners for peace--a lie to protect himself post Camp David, when he offered a fragmented West Bank to the Palestinians. Levy:

And what is Zionism nowadays? An archaic and outdated concept born in a different reality, a vague and delusive concept marking the difference between the permitted and the proscribed. Does Zionism mean settlement in the territories? Occupation? The legitimization of every act of violence and injustice? The left stammered. Any statement critical of Zionism, even the Zionism of the occupation, was considered a taboo that the left did not dare break. The right grabbed a monopoly on Zionism, leaving the left with its self-righteousness.


A Jewish and democratic state? The Zionist left said yes automatically, fudging the difference between the two and not daring to give either priority. Legitimization for every war? The Zionist left stammered again - yes to the beginning and no to the continuation, or something like that. Solving the refugee problem and the right of return? Acknowledgment of the wrongdoing of 1948? Unmentionable. This left has now, rightly, reached the end of its road...


Levy says the only way to save Zionism is for Israelis to come out against the occupation:

If you prefer, this is Zionism, and if you prefer, this is anti-Zionism. In any case, it is legitimate and essential for those who do not want to see Israel fall victim to the insanities of the right for many more years. Anyone who wants an Israeli left must say "enough" to Zionism, the Zionism of which the right has taken complete control.

Something is left out of Levy's picture: The United States. As Avrum Burg says, American Jews are part of the structure of Zionism. Until they wake up and begin to apply their own experience of minority rights to the racist politics of Israel, Levy's political project can't work. And who can move that American Jewish leadership? Obama.
(Phil Weiss)

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  1. Chris Berel says:

    Funny. 149 years after Lincoln's prsidency ends, black are still suffering from racism, the government is still corrupt. Politicians are still two-faced.

    The only thing still good is the American admiration of the Jews and their unwavering support for the jewish Homeland. This has existed for over 169 years. This admiration forces congress to do the political will of the people. Support Israel.

  2. Gert says:

    Chris Berel:

    "The only thing still good is the American admiration of the Jews and their unwavering support for the jewish Homeland. This has existed for over 169 years. This admiration forces congress to do the political will of the people. Support Israel."

    You insane? What "169 years"? US support for Israel started in 1967, more or less a geopolitical accident. In the thirties anti-Semitism in the US was more or less on a par with its older European equivalent.

    If average Americans knew what I (and many others, of course) know about what Zionism has caused the Palestinians in terms of indescribable suffering, loss of life and dispossession, from 1948 (and before) right up to the present day, they would demand ceasing US financial aid to the Zionist state (USD 3 billion – 3,000,000,000 per annum) immediately, perhaps even demand military intervention on behalf of the Palestinians.

    The "American admiration of the Jews" wouldn't exist without an enormous propaganda effort which systematically suppresses any attempt at showing the truth. American successive governments are in that respects guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal regime, to put it mildly.

  3. LeaNder says:

    The only thing still good is the American admiration of the Jews and their unwavering support for the jewish Homeland. This has existed for over 169 years. This admiration forces congress to do the political will of the people. Support Israel.

    explain. America admires and supports the Jewish homeland and or Zionism since 1840?

    Could you closer define the foundations of this admiration. What exactly do Americans admire in Israel?

  4. Harvey Shavitz says:

    Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?

  5. JP says:

    Gideon Levy link:

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1063597.html

  6. LD says:

    LOL 'Harvey Shavitz'

    What's not to like? I'm sure if Americans only see movies like Don't Mess with the Zohan and other movies of a similar intellectual integrity they'll walk away with a depiction of Israel as 'good' and Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims as 'evil'.

    There's a book out that profiles Arab/Muslim stereotypes in the US and it's no surprising that they'd be protrayed negatively even though they account for 1+ billion worldwide (arabs, and also 1 billion+ muslims).

    No one 'controls' hollywood but the Jewish and Zionist perspective have the majority influence when it comes to Israel. In fact, I can't think of any mainstream American movie that criticized Israel or presented the reality of the occupation.

    Israel is a scam , a fraud. The country is fascistic and undemocratic for everyone who isn't Jewish.

    We give the US and americans too much credit anyways. Money/Guns don't equate to moral superiority. Israel and American diaspora Jews have a better PR campaign and financial support/military support. That's the ONLY reason this is allowed.

    When you see how these idiot zionists have gotten so fat on their own power, that their true disgusting pig-like behavior is revealed to the world, then everyone is shocked out of their sleep-walk. It took this level of pig-behavior to see what a disgusting country israel is.

  7. LeaNder says:

    Chris, Manifest Destiny? Jacksonian Democracy. Expansionism?

    So the support is rooted in the recognition that both the US and Israel are conquerors of land with God on their side? People always admire their kind?

    What role plays history in this perception? Is it essentially static? Or static only as a product of humans with an essentially Darwinian nature that trump religion?

    You may be right about might trumps right, in fact it is the recurring criticism I meet lately. My closest friend and me seem to have changed parts over the issue. But what role plays religion in this? Is it's only the lending of a veneer of righteousness?

    Since I don't expect you to answer any of the above question, would you answer one? Why such a precise number? Why exactly 169 years?

  8. LeaNder says:

    sorry, of course 1840. But it's a Freudian slip. What exactly makes Hitler different then?

  9. Chris Berel says:

    Get a clue, Gert – Jewish Homeland

  10. MRW. says:

    Theodor Herzl (1860) wasn't born 169 years ago. And he didn't come up with Zionism until 1895 when he heard Parisians shout "Death to the Jews" in response to the Dreyfus affair.

    I wonder what someone is going to create in response to Israelis shouting "Death to the Arabs."

  11. LeaNder says:

    How relevant would be Herzl's dead for America's love affair with Israel? MRW?

  12. LeaNder says:

    birth, and I am gone.

  13. Gert says:

    Chris Berel:

    From 1948 to about 1967 the US couldn't give a rat's arse about Israul, back then a small, decidedly leftist country in the middle of nowhere: the US was busy building Germany into a bulwark against the Soviets. In the Suez crisis Eisenhower sided squarely against the Anglo-Franco-Israeli axis. Even awareness of the Holocaust in the US wasn't all that high until the Hollywoodification of the Shoa (seventies – eighties).

    Why don't you just believe US support for Israel is as old as the Old Testament itself: some of America's most moronic part of the Israel-can-do-no-wrong crowd seem to believe that.

    You the resident troll here? Every decent blog's gotta have one. Seems to me you're it.

  14. American says:

    I can't believe any of you even respond to the chris wingbot…can't you tell he is about 16 going on 12?

    We need an age requirement on here.

  15. Gert says:

    Harvey Shavitz:

    "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    What exactly do they know about Israel? I don't see the American media landscape spending a lot of airtime on life in Israel. For the most part that would be dreadfully boring anyway (I mean, what really is so fascinating about everyday life in Israel? It's about as fascinating as life in any American new town).

    No, what Americans know about that country comes almost exclusively from the highly sanitised images of the Warrior Nation when it does what it's best at: fight wars. Never a glimpse of any real suffering, unless the suffering takes place in the Southern Negev. Never a glimpse of violence unless it's committed by the 'teggogists'. Not a bombing in sight, unless it's a suicide bombing.

    How many Americans really have the foggiest idea of the issues discussed on this particular blog, for instance? How many, Harvey?

  16. Gert says:

    Chris Berel:

    From 1948 to about 1967 the US couldn't give a rat's arse about Israul, back then a small, decidedly leftist country in the middle of nowhere: the US was busy building Germany into a bulwark against the Soviets. In the Suez crisis Eisenhower sided squarely against the Anglo-Franco-Israeli axis. Even awareness of the Holocaust in the US wasn't all that high until the Hollywoodification of the Shoa (seventies – eighties).

    Why don't you just believe US support for Israel is as old as the Old Testament itself: some of America's most moronic Israel-can-do-no-wrong crowd seem to believe that.

  17. Eurosabra says:

    "Death to Arabs" means that Israel is catching up with Palestinian policy of the 1920s.

  18. FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    FROM ME:

    Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis

    “As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun (NMO)…[Their proposal stated:] ‘The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis and bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East… The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany’s side’….The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI’s military power ‘negligable.’ ” Allan Brownfield, “The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs”, July/August 1998.

    SOURCE: "The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict" – Third Edition (Published by Jews for Justice in the Middle East)

    PDF DOWNLOAD (40 pages) – link to cactus48.com

    HTML VIEW – link to cactus48.com

  19. Dan Kelly says:

    Theodor Herzl (1860) wasn't born 169 years ago. And he didn't come up with Zionism until 1895 when he heard Parisians shout "Death to the Jews" in response to the Dreyfus affair.

    Hi MRW. Zionism as an idea actually predates Herzl, perhaps by as much as 100 years or more. I was recently reading about it, and I'll be damned if I can remember where, and I neglected to save the link. I'll look for it and post it – I think you'd enjoy it.

    Anyway, Herzl obviously is the one who really got the whole thing going.

  20. tree says:

    "Death to the Arabs" goes back to the very beginnings of Zionism in Palestine. The settlers brought the idea with them.

    Asher Ginsburg (Ahad Ha'am) in 1891,in the "Truth from Eretz Israel":

    "In all things it is our custom to learn nothing from the past for the future. There is certainly one thing we could have learned from our past and present history: how careful we must be not to arouse the anger of other people against ourselves by reprehensible conduct. How much more, then, should we be careful, in our conduct toward a foreign people among whom we live once again, to walk together in love and respect, and needless to say in justice and righteousness. And what do our brethren in Eretz Israel do? Quite the opposite! They were slaves in their land of exile, and they suddenly find themselves with unlimited freedom, the kind of wild freedom to be found only in a country like Turkey. This sudden change has engendered in them an impulse to despotism, as always happens when 'a slave becomes a king,' (Proverbs 30:22) and behold they walk with the Arabs in hostility and cruelty, unjustly encroaching on them, shamefully beating them for no good reason, and even bragging about what they do, and there is no one to stand in the breach and call a halt to this dangerous and despicable impulse. To be sure our people are correct in saying that the Arab respects only those who demonstrate strength and courage, but this is relevant only when he feels that his rival is acting justly; it is not the case if there is reason to think his rival's actions are oppressive and unjust. Then, even if he restrains himself and remains silent forever, the rage will remain in his heart and he is unrivaled in 'taking vengeance and bearing a grudge.' (Leviticus 19:18)"

    From Allan Brownfeld, written in May 2002:

    " From the beginning many Jews who supported one form or another of a Jewish “homeland” were concerned about the rights of the present inhabitants of Palestine. Ahad Ha’am , the Russian Jewish writer and philosopher, in 1913 protested against a Jewish boycott of Arab labor. He wrote: “I can’t put up with the idea that our brethren are morally capable of behaving in such a way to humans of another people, and unwittingly the thought comes to my mind: If this is so now, what will our relations to the other be like if, at the end of time, we really achieve power in Eretz Yisrael? And if this be the Messiah, I do not wish to see this coming.”

    In 1922, young Jewish zealots killed an Arab boy. This brought a cry of rage from Ahad Ha’am: “Jews and blood—are there two greater opposites than these? Is this the goal for which our ancestors longed and for which they suffered all those tribulations? Is this the dream of the return to Zion which our people dreamt of for thousands of years; that we should come to Zion to pollute its soil with the spilling of innocent blood?”

    Eighty years after those words were written, the contradiction between Jewish values and the uses of Israeli power is becoming a reality recognized by more and more Jews who seek to restore the humane religious tradition of their faith and separate it from the nationalism which, all too often, has corrupted it."

    There is nothing new in the "Death to the Arabs" attitude among Zionists.

  21. chris berel says:

    So, Shamir lied to a bunch of Nazis in the hopes of saving Jews. And you're going to hold that over his head until he's dead? Oops, too late.

    I would say, Dicky, that anyone bringing up that old canard is desperate and losing the fight.

    You're better off with a white flag. At least you'd be honest.

  22. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    THE WORDS OF A FORMER ISRAELI: "Israelis have never been particularly kind to each other. It’s one of the reasons I left actually. In my late twenties I started to grow weary of the unkind, harsh and unforgiving atmosphere around me. It was a tough place to live in not because of our ‘enemies’ but because of how people treated one another. You would believe that we were all enemies rather than people who have some kind of a shared heritage. The only thing that could unite people and temporarily brought out more kindness and a sense of cooperation was a feeling of being under collective threat, and in particular a ‘good wholesome war’." – Avigail Abarbanel

    *SOURCE – link to avigailabarbanel.me.uk
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  23. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *AN EXCERPT FROM A HAARETZ ARTICLE OF 01/27/09 ENTITLED “Police arrest Jewish teens for allegedly assaulting Arab youth in Galilee”:
    An Arab youth from the Galilee village of Majd el-Krum was injured lightly on Monday night after a gang of Jewish teens beat him with sticks while he was walking along the promenade in Tiberias.
    Police arrested eight suspects ranging from 14 to 16 years of age who are believed to have taken part in the assault.
    The victim, Mohammed Mansur, was rushed to Poriah Hospital near Tiberias, where he was treated for injuries sustained all over his body…..
    SOURCE - 

  24. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM "THE INDEPENDENT" (U.K.):

    Jews protect Palestinians in harvest of hate

    Israelis cross religious divide to shelter olive farmers from settlers' attacks

    By Donald Macintyre in Awarta, West Bank – Friday, 10 October 2008

    In the shade of the trees where they have been picking olives all morning, in this wadi, south-east of Nablus, a Palestinian farmer, Jamal Otman Koarik, and two of his daughters share a lunch of home-baked bread, zatar, oil, courgettes and salad with three visitors. It's a bucolic scene that could have happened any time in the past century. But what makes it notable in 2008 is that the guests who have been helping Mr Koarik pick the olives are Israeli Jews: a rabbi, an anthropologist and a youth worker, Hellela Siew.

    Born in Tel Aviv, Ms Siew served in the army, took a university degree, then a teacher's diploma. Thirty-six years ago, she took the tough decision to emigrate to London, telling her parents: "I won't come back until there's peace." Ms Siew, who is now 64, remains an Israeli citizen but now lives with her British husband in Hebden Bridge. She has kept to her word, except that each autumn she comes back to stay in her hometown with her relatives and spends each day of the two-month harvest season picking olives on Palestinian farmland in the West Bank……

    …..Last year, she was in a group in the South Hebron Hills confronted by settlers who fired shots from a pistol and an M16 assault rifle, despite the presence of the army and police. "Then one of the soldiers said, 'Look, one of them is coming down with a jug of water for you'. The settler emptied the jug over me. It was full of human shit."……

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to independent.co.uk
    />

  25. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM HAARETZ (ISRAEL):

    East Jerusalem Arabs detail violence they face by city's Jews

    By Haaretz Staff and Channel 10 – Last update – 01:05 29/05/2008

    Tags: East Jerusalem, Jew, Israel
    Haaretz.com/Channel 10 daily feature for May 28, 2008.

    Last month's attack by a Jewish mob on Arab youths got ample press, but shouldn't be considered an isolated incident.

    In fact, Arab residents of Jerusalem, particularly taxi drivers, detail a pattern of racially-motivated violent acts by religious Jews.

    The drivers from East Jerusalem call the western part of the city the "Wild West." This week, prominent rabbis circulated Halakhic rulings online, calling for the city's Jews to carry out violent acts against Arab residents.

    VIDEO – link to haaretz.com

  26. Eurosabra says:

    Tree,

    It was not a Jewish boycott of Arab labor, but the decision to close the kibbutzim to Arab membership. That, along with the decision to close the Histadrut, lies at one origin of Zionism's long disaster. However, in 1913, the newspaper al-Falastin wrote "Jews, the weakest of all peoples and the least of them, sons of clinking gold, stop your deceit." (by Sheikh Suleiman al-Taji, who himself sold land to Jews.) The movement to stop Jewish land purchases required the consolidation of what had been acquired, leading to the impeccable mutually-reinforcing decisions which brought us to the present day.

  27. tree says:

    When the first Zionists bought up land in the late 1800s, they mistreated the Arabs that worked on their lands just like other European colonialists mistreated the indigenous inhabitants among whom they settled. But with the arrival of the second and third aliyahs the Zionists decided to enforce the JNF land covenants that prohibited any non-Jews from ever owning or working on Jewish owned land.

    The whole project was doomed to create injustice from the very start. You can't just dispossess indigenous peoples without creating massive injustice. The early Zionists didn't care, except for a few notable critics who had no significant influence.

  28. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM HAARETZ (ISRAEL):

    Fearing Haredi ire, Knesset choir excludes women singers at Brown session

    By Shahar Ilan, Haaretz Correspondent – Last update – 14:52 22/07/2008

    A senior Knesset official on Monday said fear of offending ultra-Orthodox MKs led the institution to exclude women singers from the parliamentary choir at a special session in honor of visiting British Prime Minister Gordon Brown earlier in the day.

    Two-thirds of the Knesset choir, headed by MK Zevulun Orlev (National Union-National Religious Party Chairman), were missing when the national anthem Hatikva was performed at the afternoon session……

    ENTIRE ARTICLE –

  29. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM HAARETZ (ISRAEL):

    5 Haredi men beat woman who refused to move to back of bus

    By Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondent – Last update – 21:32 21/10/2007

    Five assailants believed to be Ultra-Orthodox Jews assaulted a woman and an Israel Defense Forces soldier Sunday for sitting next to each other on a bus bound for Beit Shemesh, near Jerusalem.

    The incident began when the five men asked the religious woman to move to the back of the bus to prevent males and females from sitting together in public. When she refused, they beat her and the male soldier who sat next to her.

    Police forces that arrived at the scene to arrest the men were attacked by dozens of ultra-Orthodox men who punctured the tires of their vehicles, allowing the assailants to escape. No one was hurt in the incident.

    The ultra-Orthodox community in Beit Shemesh has been at odds with Egged over their demands that the bus company operates so-called "kosher" lines where woman and men are seated seperately.

    In 2006 dozens of Haredi protestors took to the streets, hurling stones and eggs to demonstrate against the bus company. In one incident, a bus driver who was attacked fired his handgun in the air to fend off his assailants.

    SOURCE – link to haaretz.com

  30. chris berel says:

    "The whole project was doomed to create injustice from the very start. You can't just dispossess indigenous peoples without creating massive injustice."

    Dispossess? The Jews purchased the land fair and square. They did not, at first, conquer the land, but bought, from the Arabs, the land that they worked and lived on. As for the indigenous, how certain are you that they were there more than one generation? Too much movement in that part of the world for any but a few to claim such.

    Even the UN recognized that fact when they declared the criteria for refugee status was only 2 years residency.

  31. Eurosabra says:

    Actually historians are pretty clear that unlike Algeria, mistreatment and dispossession (as opposed to requiring tenant farmers to relocate) were pretty rare in the early days, as the Ottoman justice system methodically punished Jewish violence and had no mechanism that would grant Jews title in the absence of clear purchase. Until the 1921 massacres, violence was small-scale and local, and generally directed by Arabs against Jews, except when it was done by the Ottoman state, when it was directed by Turks, Arabs, and Kurds against Jews.

    It is true that Zionism missed an opportunity in 1913, and that the whole thing might have been viable without Arab opposition if it had not been exclusionary, however, it would have been restricted in scale to utopian projects like the German and American Colonies in Haifa and Jerusalem. Why not be honest and say that you prefer Palestinian Islamist nationalism, and that Jews be everywhere a despised and persecuted minority and nothing else? (A radical socialist critique that backed MAKI and the Palestinian socialists like the DFLP/PFLP would still be possible, but anyone who wishes simply that Zionism "never was" is a proponent of the al-Husseinis, the Arab Higher Committee, Izzedine al-Qassam and the explicitly anti-Semitic Palestinian nationalism of the teens, 20s, and 30s.)

  32. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM "The Financial Times" (U.K.):

    Ultra-orthodox Israelis make their voices heard

    By Tobias Buck in Jerusalem – Published: September 29 2008 20:25

    Israel’s ultra-orthodox community has every reason to follow the current political upheaval in Tel Aviv with confidence……

    …..One hotly debated example of ultra-orthodox assertiveness came during a ceremony marking the opening of a bridge in June. The organisers had asked a troupe of girls aged between 13 and 16 to perform a dance routine, but shortly before the show Jerusalem’s ultra-orthodox deputy mayor intervened. Denouncing the planned dance as “promiscuous”, he ordered the dancers to cut out certain moves and wear demure robes that conformed to the Haredi modesty code.

    Small as it was, the affair provoked a national outcry. Commentators spoke of the ultra-orthodox “Taliban”, comparing the strictures imposed by the Jerusalem town hall to the hardline views of Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan and Iran.

    Controversy returned a few weeks later when Gordon Brown, the British prime minister, gave a speech to the Knesset, Israel’s parliament. So as not to offend ultra-orthodox deputies, the choir that sang the national anthems was forced to drop its female members…….

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to ft.com
    />

  33. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM YNET NEWS (ISRAEL):

    Operation 'cover up'

    Jerusalem pride parade struggle ends, new struggle begins against tight clothing. Ultra-Orthodox rabbis to hold ‘modesty’ rally Saturday

    Chaim Levinson Published: 11.17.06, 18:25 / Israel Jewish Scene

    After the struggle against the recent pride parade in Jerusalem, ultra-Orthodox rabbis have marked their next target: The tight lycra shirts and short skirts. For this purpose, some of the most important rabbis are set to convene at a rally Saturday night in a bid to "safeguard modesty."

    Last year, the limits of modesty were broken in the Orthodox community, when young Orthodox girls began visiting shopping malls and buying fashionable clothing from popular chain stores such as Castro and Zara – too fashionable if you ask the rabbis.

    The rabbis say that their biggest enemy is the lycra blouse that clings to the bodies of these God fearing women and by so doing over emphasizes what is best left to modesty…….

    ENTIRE ARTICLE –

  34. chris berel says:

    A rally, not a blood bath and beheading festival that the Islamic fascists have so often.

    Democracies allow protest marches. Hamas only allows the ones they organize.

  35. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM YNET NEWS(ISRAEL):

    J’lem: Bleach war against ‘immodest’ women

    Residents of haredi neighborhood claim attacks by religious fanatics battling against ‘promiscuity’ of clothing stores and shoppers; victim: This is Bitul Torah. Don’t they have anything better to do than look at women and determine whether they are modest or not?

    Neta Sela Published: 10.25.06, 11:34 / Israel Jewish Scene

    More and more women in Jerusalem’s Geula neighborhood have been complaining of being sprayed with a bleach mix.

    The attacks mark an escalation of the religious fanatics’ battle against what they refer to as the ‘promiscuity’ on the haredi streets and the infiltration of ‘fashion’ that often times does not correspond with the strict dress codes in the community.

    For instance, clothes that may seem modest to most people are considered by religious extremists to be ostentatious if they have shiny or colorful elements to them. Similar claims are made against women who wear overly-tight outfits……

    ENTIRE ARTICLE –

  36. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    *FROM Ynet News (Israel):

    'Modesty patrol' suspected of spilling acid on teenage girl

    Religious tensions at boiling point in Beitar Illite as 14-year-old girl attacked by member of town's 'modesty guard'

    Neta Sela – Published: 06.05.08, 18:51 / Israel News

    A 14-year-old girl from Beitar Illite was taken to the Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusalem after an unknown person spilled acid on her face, legs and stomach, causing light burn wounds. The act has been attributed to a representative of the so-called 'modesty guard' in this town where religious and secular residents are increasingly at bitter odds. MDA received the call just before midnight on Wednesday and paramedic Dror Eini who arrived on the scene to treat the girl also managed to calm her down enough so she could explain what had happened…….

    ENTIRE ARTICLE –

  37. *FROM HARVEY SHAVITZ, ABOVE: "Americans across the board have always loved and admired Israel. How could they not, what's not to like?"

    'Modesty Squad' Faces Legal Scrutiny in Israel
    Run Date: 12/01/08
    By Brenda Gazzar
    WeNews correspondent

    State prosecutors in Israel are arguing the case of a woman who they say was attacked in June by an ultra-Orthodox 'modesty patrol.' The verdict, along with a related case, is expected to help define the legal parameters of religious vigilantes.

    JERUSALEM (WOMENSENEWS)–When Michal, 28, opened her apartment door one Saturday night in June, she was expecting to find a client for her hair design business.

    Instead the Israeli divorcee who left the Orthodox fold some three years earlier found several ultra-Orthodox Jewish men. They threw her on the floor, gagged her, kicked her all over her body and questioned about her relations with men, according to official accounts.

    After they beat her for at least 10 minutes, they warned her "this was just the beginning" and told her that if she continued to live there, she would be killed…….

    ENTIRE ARTICLE –

  38. Citizen says:

    @ chris berel

    "The Jews purchased the land fair and square. They did not, at first, conquer the land, but bought, from the Arabs, the land that they worked and lived on."

    Correct. What hasbara agent berel has left out of true history is that the total of such land purchased square and fair from absentee arab
    landowners is 6% of Israel's land proper today. This information is easily found on the internet, and in many books of history written by jews.

  39. A lot of the purchase of that 6% of Palestine was questionable legally both under Ottoman and also later under Mandatory law.

    Anyway, the picture in Phil's article raises the question of Zionist insanity, about which my wife has been meditating: The Emotional Violence of Israel Advocacy.

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