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	<title>Comments on: David Makovsky of WINEP calls on Israel to implement &#8216;appropriate biometrics&#8217; for Palestinians at border crossings</title>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
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		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dkos has its own share of berel-bots and they are waiting in the wings to savage anyone who might dare to make Zionists cry. I&#039;m amazed that anything relating to justice for Palestine makes it through the gatekeeping; whether diarists or commenters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One comment already said that most Kossacks avoid I/P issues like the plague, whereas another said they are only interested in the &quot;pie fights.&quot; From my perspective, the berel-bots at Dkos turn everything they can into a pie fight, and get people banned that make too many salient points on the issue.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dkos has its own share of berel-bots and they are waiting in the wings to savage anyone who might dare to make Zionists cry. I&#39;m amazed that anything relating to justice for Palestine makes it through the gatekeeping; whether diarists or commenters.</p>
<p>One comment already said that most Kossacks avoid I/P issues like the plague, whereas another said they are only interested in the &quot;pie fights.&quot; From my perspective, the berel-bots at Dkos turn everything they can into a pie fight, and get people banned that make too many salient points on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Koshiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koshiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Colonial masters suggest measures to make the colonial subjects&#039; subjugation a little less uncomfortable, then pat themselves on the back about how enlightened and civilized they are. Old news in 1878 or so.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colonial masters suggest measures to make the colonial subjects&#39; subjugation a little less uncomfortable, then pat themselves on the back about how enlightened and civilized they are. Old news in 1878 or so.</p>
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		<title>By: jim byers</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim byers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe they should just tattoo them. Biometrics is the new tattoo technology. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should just tattoo them. Biometrics is the new tattoo technology. </p>
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		<title>By: Sand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LanceThruster: I second your comment.  I&#039;ve been blocked numerous times even setting up an account.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LanceThruster: I second your comment.  I&#39;ve been blocked numerous times even setting up an account.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://draykcab.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/cheek/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Behold the &quot;biometrics&quot;!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://draykcab.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/cheek/" rel="nofollow">Behold the &quot;biometrics&quot;!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ana Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It might be more cost-effective to make the Palestinians have to wear a yellow crescent on their clothes to make it through the checkpoints.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be more cost-effective to make the Palestinians have to wear a yellow crescent on their clothes to make it through the checkpoints.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would those biometrics be like the chip I had implanted in my dog in case he runs away?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would those biometrics be like the chip I had implanted in my dog in case he runs away?</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;&lt;i&gt;the berel-bots at Dkos turn everything they can into a pie fight, and get people banned that make too many salient points on the issue.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know a couple of people who have been banned from there, both very knowledgeable, aware, and always civil people whom I have never seen using any kind of inflammatory or even provocative language.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;<i>the berel-bots at Dkos turn everything they can into a pie fight, and get people banned that make too many salient points on the issue.</i>&quot;</p>
<p>I know a couple of people who have been banned from there, both very knowledgeable, aware, and always civil people whom I have never seen using any kind of inflammatory or even provocative language.  </p>
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		<title>By: David Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Last April Makovsky spoke at Hillel at University of Illinois, Urbana. The by-invitation-only lunch was for him to discuss Iran, presumably under what circumstances it should be bombed. I wasn&#039;t there, of course. The evening talk (I was there) was on the &quot;chances for co-existence&quot;, a standard theme among those who fancy themselves as moderates (which he does). He actually assumed that the students there would not understand or agree that &quot;co-existence&quot; is an option; that is, assuming they were to his right. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He began his talk with the following summary of the history of Zionism: &quot;The Jews came in peace; the Arabs wanted war.&quot; He supported his argument with a total of one fact: the assassination of Emir Abdullah of Trans-Jordan in 1951 by a Palestinian. He explained that there wasn&#039;t enough time to elaborate. During his talk he chastised the Palestinians for their lack of economic development, especially in Gaza, as if Israel has not had a policy for years of preventing that. Naturally, he asked what we would do if there were rockets fired into our country. All of this in the spirit of moderation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Beyond the aggravation of listening to somebody like this, it&#039;s hard to convey how stupid and boring he was; utterly self-absorbed. He name-dropped (Salam Fayyad, we can work with him, he&#039;s the Palestinian savior, Makovsky meets with him on trips there). He rambled around during his lecture and in answering (softball) questions, throwing crap on the wall to see if it would stick, virtually incoherent at points. And yes, he made the same point about making the settlements more &quot;efficient&quot;--how can one not think of Eichmann when hearing this? It would be actually refreshing and more entertaining if these people were just rabid Arab-haters like Lieberman, instead of pretending that they&#039;re not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was gratifying to hear Rashid Khalidi put him in his place on a Charlie Rose show in January (I think); a discussion that also included Roger Cohen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not even sure that people like Makovsky are even authentic ideologues, beyond their desire to identify with power--they&#039;re just think tank hacks. If the Israel Lobby were to dry up, he&#039;ll figure out what to tell some other think tank or lobby whatever it is they want to hear. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last April Makovsky spoke at Hillel at University of Illinois, Urbana. The by-invitation-only lunch was for him to discuss Iran, presumably under what circumstances it should be bombed. I wasn&#39;t there, of course. The evening talk (I was there) was on the &quot;chances for co-existence&quot;, a standard theme among those who fancy themselves as moderates (which he does). He actually assumed that the students there would not understand or agree that &quot;co-existence&quot; is an option; that is, assuming they were to his right. </p>
<p>He began his talk with the following summary of the history of Zionism: &quot;The Jews came in peace; the Arabs wanted war.&quot; He supported his argument with a total of one fact: the assassination of Emir Abdullah of Trans-Jordan in 1951 by a Palestinian. He explained that there wasn&#39;t enough time to elaborate. During his talk he chastised the Palestinians for their lack of economic development, especially in Gaza, as if Israel has not had a policy for years of preventing that. Naturally, he asked what we would do if there were rockets fired into our country. All of this in the spirit of moderation.</p>
<p>Beyond the aggravation of listening to somebody like this, it&#39;s hard to convey how stupid and boring he was; utterly self-absorbed. He name-dropped (Salam Fayyad, we can work with him, he&#39;s the Palestinian savior, Makovsky meets with him on trips there). He rambled around during his lecture and in answering (softball) questions, throwing crap on the wall to see if it would stick, virtually incoherent at points. And yes, he made the same point about making the settlements more &quot;efficient&quot;&#8211;how can one not think of Eichmann when hearing this? It would be actually refreshing and more entertaining if these people were just rabid Arab-haters like Lieberman, instead of pretending that they&#39;re not.</p>
<p>It was gratifying to hear Rashid Khalidi put him in his place on a Charlie Rose show in January (I think); a discussion that also included Roger Cohen.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not even sure that people like Makovsky are even authentic ideologues, beyond their desire to identify with power&#8211;they&#39;re just think tank hacks. If the Israel Lobby were to dry up, he&#39;ll figure out what to tell some other think tank or lobby whatever it is they want to hear. </p>
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		<title>By: Ana Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised that David Makovsky, since he is so concerned with improving Palestinian&#039;s lives as well as Israel&#039;s security, hasn&#039;t come up with a dual solution: the implantable chip that Judy implanted in her dog and &quot;Implanon&quot;, the implantable contraceptive device sure to beat back that &quot;demographic threat&quot; to Israel!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m surprised that David Makovsky, since he is so concerned with improving Palestinian&#39;s lives as well as Israel&#39;s security, hasn&#39;t come up with a dual solution: the implantable chip that Judy implanted in her dog and &quot;Implanon&quot;, the implantable contraceptive device sure to beat back that &quot;demographic threat&quot; to Israel!</p>
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