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	<title>Comments on: NYU administration cuts off internet and electricity to student protesters, but occupation continues undeterred</title>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, the NYU admins are making a big mistake to make that offer. Just like negotiating with terrorists, if you let terrorism work the reward is more terrorism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Same here, if they let a group of students disrupt the operations of the university and get what they want, that will just lead to any disgruntled group of idiots taking over buildings whenever they want something. A society cannot function on the basis of giving anyone who can disrupt the society anything they want, because it is so easy to disrupt a society that you quickly end up with groups that (in the aggregate) demand more than 100% of available resources.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These students broadcast their crimes on the web. It isn&#039;t as though they can&#039;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, this has nothing to do with their message. I would feel the same way if a bunch of Jewish students were occupying that university building.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Speak, leaflet, posters, whatever you want that falls under free speech. I support the right of the National Lawyers Guild to hand their blood libel posters in their offices and on public bulletin boards. I would support their right to hand out swastika fliers. But what these students are doing is not exercising their right to free speech, it is disrupting other people&#039;s rights to use the university facilities they pay for.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the NYU admins are making a big mistake to make that offer. Just like negotiating with terrorists, if you let terrorism work the reward is more terrorism.</p>
<p>Same here, if they let a group of students disrupt the operations of the university and get what they want, that will just lead to any disgruntled group of idiots taking over buildings whenever they want something. A society cannot function on the basis of giving anyone who can disrupt the society anything they want, because it is so easy to disrupt a society that you quickly end up with groups that (in the aggregate) demand more than 100% of available resources.</p>
<p>These students broadcast their crimes on the web. It isn&#39;t as though they can&#39;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.</p>
<p>BTW, this has nothing to do with their message. I would feel the same way if a bunch of Jewish students were occupying that university building.</p>
<p>Speak, leaflet, posters, whatever you want that falls under free speech. I support the right of the National Lawyers Guild to hand their blood libel posters in their offices and on public bulletin boards. I would support their right to hand out swastika fliers. But what these students are doing is not exercising their right to free speech, it is disrupting other people&#39;s rights to use the university facilities they pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: bobf</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are also some video updates about the anti-war student occupation of NYU posted on the New School In Exile site at the following link:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.newschoolinexile.com/&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also some video updates about the anti-war student occupation of NYU posted on the New School In Exile site at the following link:</p>
<p>http://www.newschoolinexile.com/</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Undergraduate silliness, says I. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Civil disobedience has no place where there is free expression. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergraduate silliness, says I. </p>
<p>Civil disobedience has no place where there is free expression. </p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;A society cannot function&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our society is functioning poorly now, and its dysfunction is accelerating. Free expression may still be available to Americans, but it has no power to stop our collective immoral violence. Free expression is impotent, and has very little value to individuals or groups without being backed up with action that forces establishmentarians to acknowledge it. Without the occupation of one floor of one building there is no publicity, no confrontation with authority, no possible change to policy. Free expression in America is widely touted as something especially democratic, but it is only considered that way because it is meaningless when confronted with the power of accumulated wealth.   &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A society cannot function</i></p>
<p>Our society is functioning poorly now, and its dysfunction is accelerating. Free expression may still be available to Americans, but it has no power to stop our collective immoral violence. Free expression is impotent, and has very little value to individuals or groups without being backed up with action that forces establishmentarians to acknowledge it. Without the occupation of one floor of one building there is no publicity, no confrontation with authority, no possible change to policy. Free expression in America is widely touted as something especially democratic, but it is only considered that way because it is meaningless when confronted with the power of accumulated wealth.   </p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The administration needs to call the police.  Have them arrested and banned from the school.  It would teach these fools an important lesson. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The administration needs to call the police.  Have them arrested and banned from the school.  It would teach these fools an important lesson. </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thom,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;These students broadcast their crimes on the web. It isn&#039;t as though they can&#039;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, this has nothing to do with their message. I would feel the same way if a bunch of Jewish students were occupying that university building.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lemme get this straight: If a bunch of Jewish students occupy a university building it&#039;s &quot;crime&quot;, but when a bunch of Jewish soldiers occupy an entire country, they deserve our financial support?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Square dat, Thom.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom,</p>
<p><i>These students broadcast their crimes on the web. It isn&#39;t as though they can&#39;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.</i></p>
<p>BTW, this has nothing to do with their message. I would feel the same way if a bunch of Jewish students were occupying that university building.</p>
<p>Lemme get this straight: If a bunch of Jewish students occupy a university building it&#39;s &quot;crime&quot;, but when a bunch of Jewish soldiers occupy an entire country, they deserve our financial support?</p>
<p>Square dat, Thom.</p>
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		<title>By: TGGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I repeat what I said &lt;a href=&quot;http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/weblog/2008/12/from-a-frederic-lee-mass-email----as-many-of-you-may-know-the-new-school-graduate-faculty-building-has-been-and-will-contin.html?cid=6a00d83451eb0069e20105367e88f5970b#comment-6a00d83451eb0069e20105367e88f5970b&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier&lt;/a&gt;: they should all be thrown in jail.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;tommy, you are a thug. You think your ends are so holy that it justifies thuggery, but I bet if some students staged an occupation in protest of divestment or something you&#039;d by absolutely shocked and livid at their behavior. It is people like you who gave the world the gulag.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat what I said <a href="http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/weblog/2008/12/from-a-frederic-lee-mass-email----as-many-of-you-may-know-the-new-school-graduate-faculty-building-has-been-and-will-contin.html?cid=6a00d83451eb0069e20105367e88f5970b#comment-6a00d83451eb0069e20105367e88f5970b" rel="nofollow">earlier</a>: they should all be thrown in jail.</p>
<p>tommy, you are a thug. You think your ends are so holy that it justifies thuggery, but I bet if some students staged an occupation in protest of divestment or something you&#39;d by absolutely shocked and livid at their behavior. It is people like you who gave the world the gulag.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Berel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But a bunch of Jewish soldiers are not occupying an entire country.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Square dat, Sam.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But a bunch of Jewish soldiers are not occupying an entire country.</p>
<p>Square dat, Sam.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The most interesting comment I read was: &lt;i&gt;You are ruining my certificate&lt;/i&gt;, among all the distractions about Pizza and Coke.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most interesting comment I read was: <i>You are ruining my certificate</i>, among all the distractions about Pizza and Coke.</p>
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		<title>By: LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is essentially about democracy. Demanding to be heard is now a &lt;b&gt;crime&lt;/b&gt;. Misdemeanor or felony?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Same here, if they let a group of students disrupt the operations of the university and get what they want, that will just lead to any disgruntled group of idiots taking over buildings whenever they want something. &lt;b&gt;A society cannot function on the basis of giving anyone who can disrupt the society anything they want&lt;/b&gt;, because it is so easy to disrupt a society that you quickly end up with groups that (in the aggregate) demand more than 100% of available resources.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These students broadcast their &lt;b&gt;crimes&lt;/b&gt; on the web. It isn&#039;t as though they can&#039;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;notice the careful attempts at balance in the end.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A &quot;society&quot; must be especially repressive when it comes to Palestinian human rights. They are scum, terrorist, you must know! As our friends never tire to tell us.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is essentially about democracy. Demanding to be heard is now a <b>crime</b>. Misdemeanor or felony?</p>
<p><i>Same here, if they let a group of students disrupt the operations of the university and get what they want, that will just lead to any disgruntled group of idiots taking over buildings whenever they want something. <b>A society cannot function on the basis of giving anyone who can disrupt the society anything they want</b>, because it is so easy to disrupt a society that you quickly end up with groups that (in the aggregate) demand more than 100% of available resources.</i></p>
<p>These students broadcast their <b>crimes</b> on the web. It isn&#39;t as though they can&#39;t be identified. They should be expelled and arrested for trespassing.</p>
<p>notice the careful attempts at balance in the end.</p>
<p>A &quot;society&quot; must be especially repressive when it comes to Palestinian human rights. They are scum, terrorist, you must know! As our friends never tire to tell us.</p>
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