Comments on: ‘Mr. Horowitz, tell us what you think of the two-state solution’

By: Brett Borders

Brett Borders — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:12:27 +0000

I, like most Jewish people, support the two state solution. Let the Arabs have the land they were allotted, even though they have stubbornly dragged their feet – refused the land every time it is offered to them in a serious gesture – and tried 3 times to ethnically cleanse the Jews out of their homeland (Israel) since 1947. The Palestinian Arabs, from what I can tell, generally do NOT support a two state solution. They can't accept the fact that theis is a tiny fragment of the Middle East (1/642nd) that isn't under Muslim rule – because it is the home of the Jewish people, recognized as their home by the UN. And many of them will accept nothing less than a complete ethnic cleansing of the Jewish people and Arab rule over the entire area.

By: manfromatlan

manfromatlan — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:34:27 +0000

Well telegraphed talking point. However there was a sizeable "Queers for Palestine", and "Nice Jewish Boys against Israeli Apartheid" contingent at the Toronto Pride Parade, and the parade grandmaster was a gay Arab. Yes there's prejudice against gays in EVERY society, but gays, bless their queer hearts, see this as an issue of defending the human rights of ALL groups.

By: adam

adam — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:37:42 +0000

In the whole Arab world the predominant percentage of Arab women waste away in the kitchen with no education or jobs. In Israel they serve in the government, hospitals, private sector etc. In the US there is one black senator. In Israel, Arabs make up ten percent of the government. Where is the outcry against Saudi Arabia where they cut peoples throats open if they commit adultry? Or Iran where there are religious police? No one speaks of this because if he doesnt involve Jews, then it doesnt sell. No one cares to enlighten on the fact that gay Palestinians come to Israel to be gay and free because in 'Palestine' they would be killed. No that doesnt sell either. There are 56 Muslim States. No one questions their legitimacy. How many articles here deal with the Egyptian abuse of the Coptics? Or Iran who ethnically cleanses the Bahai? That also doesnt sell. What else doesnt sell? Some of Israel's biggest Zionists and patriots: the Arab Druze. Who have flourished and expanded under Israel's Jewish democracy. Israel is the only country in the Middle East where Christianity is on the rise. That doesnt sell. What sells? Israel genociding the Palestinians.They went from 1 million in 1948 to 5 million in 2009. Geez. Not so far behind the Israelis. Israel is made to be the evil of the world. But despite some of the evils of the occupation, Israel is an amazing flourishing country that incorporates traditional values and democracy. If anything Israel is a model for the Middle East not the USA or anything else. Israel has shown a country where Jews, Muslims, and Christians live together in peace. We have all three religions and multiple ethnicities in the government and public sector. So please. Spare us the arm chair superiority judgements.

By: manfromatlan

manfromatlan — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:57:27 +0000

Much as I respect your reasons for not taking a position on one or two states, it just won't wash anymore. When the Israeli state is supported by the Jewish Diaspora, either overtly or through non-involvement, then neutrality shouldn't be the default position of liberals. When young Jews ask why what is being done to Palestinians doesn't constitute genocide, or how Israel isn't to be considered an apartheid state, then we need to debate that honestly, and ask how their 'elders' ( I refer to the hippie activists of yore:) could oppose the Vietnam War but not Gaza, and apartheid South Africa but not Israel. And, given the essential inequality in strengths I don't think we need to let the issue be resolved by the two parties alone, but a solution must be imposed by the organisation that created the problem in the first place, the UN, and, given the corruption of political and social dialogue by the Zionist experiment, I for one have no problem with calling Zionism for what it is, blatant European volk racism, and that it should be treated and addressed accordingly.

By: amalin

amalin — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:59:23 +0000

i have just finished reading the book 'i saw ramallah' by palestinian poet, mourid barghouti (foreward by edward said, trans. by ahdaf soueif). more than any film i've seen, or thoughtful, balanced journalism on the subject of the displaced and disenfranchised palestinian people that i've read, this book has helped me to understand the reality of not only the palestinian people, but all political refugees in similar situations. which is why i very much appreciate the viewpoint of mr. horowitz, emphasizing the principles of equality and self-determination that must be at the foundation of any truly effective and lasting'solution.' when i found this blog (just now), at first i thought it was a neo-nazi website, because of the name (i.e., mondoweiss = worldwhite or white world). i find this very ironic. is it meant to be, wonder?

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By: tifanny

tifanny — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:38:58 +0000

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By: cindy

cindy — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:37:55 +0000

By: independentminded

independentminded — Sat, 30 May 2009 12:39:42 +0000

The two-state solution is the ONLY safe, sane and sensible solution to this decades-old conflict. Israel should pull its troops and settlers out of West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem….now, and allow the Palestinians to create their own independent, sovereign nation-state alongside Israel.

By: otto

otto — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

This is good, indeed excellent, but the important explicit step is to envision jewish safety without a jewish state at all, including many jewish colonists in palestine leaving for the US, European countries, Australia etc, just as the Afrikaaners and French settlers in Algeria have done. Unless you offer an alternative vision of jewish safety, too many of your listeners will think – and be allowed to think – that you just mean a gentler, kinder Israel.