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		<title>By: Jim Haygood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Haygood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;The addiction to war and indefinite expansion is no longer an Israeli problem. How did we ever dare to suppose that it was?&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Probably because the addiction goes unquestioned in the U.S., which never demobilized from WW II. Bases in occupied countries such as Germany and Japan became permanent garrisons, just as wartime intelligence agencies became permamnent fixtures of the security state, and wartime weapons spending never stopped expanding during peacetime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Western colonial outposts such as Israel were easily adopted into the U.S. global empire. And as with brutal caudillo rule in its former Latin American satrapies, the U.S. remains unconcerned about the harsh domestic policies of its client states.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;NATO, whose treaty describes a European mutual defense pact, has reinvented itself to menace Russia&#039;s borders and immerse itself in a hopeless debacle in Afghanistan, with a fresh push from the newly-elected Democratic president. These policies occasion almost zero debate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The U.S. mindlessly supports Israel because it is a bipartisan militarist nation which instinctively feels kinship with fellow militarists ... particularly those with cabinet ministers such as Avigdor Lieberman, who can be &#039;as nasty as they wanna be&#039; without fear or shame. This will never change as long as most voters are content to keep playing in the media-managed bipartisan sandbox, under the silent gaze of their discreet adult minders.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;The addiction to war and indefinite expansion is no longer an Israeli problem. How did we ever dare to suppose that it was?&#39;</p>
<p>Probably because the addiction goes unquestioned in the U.S., which never demobilized from WW II. Bases in occupied countries such as Germany and Japan became permanent garrisons, just as wartime intelligence agencies became permamnent fixtures of the security state, and wartime weapons spending never stopped expanding during peacetime.</p>
<p>Western colonial outposts such as Israel were easily adopted into the U.S. global empire. And as with brutal caudillo rule in its former Latin American satrapies, the U.S. remains unconcerned about the harsh domestic policies of its client states.</p>
<p>NATO, whose treaty describes a European mutual defense pact, has reinvented itself to menace Russia&#39;s borders and immerse itself in a hopeless debacle in Afghanistan, with a fresh push from the newly-elected Democratic president. These policies occasion almost zero debate.</p>
<p>The U.S. mindlessly supports Israel because it is a bipartisan militarist nation which instinctively feels kinship with fellow militarists &#8230; particularly those with cabinet ministers such as Avigdor Lieberman, who can be &#39;as nasty as they wanna be&#39; without fear or shame. This will never change as long as most voters are content to keep playing in the media-managed bipartisan sandbox, under the silent gaze of their discreet adult minders.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not a big fan of &quot;sandalistas.&quot; Inmure yourself in other people&#039;s politics and you are taking risks and need to be prepared for the consequences.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Americans need to be concerned is our mindless subsidization of the carnage and oppression, and our political linkage for no discernible good reason to a doomed crusader state. Persons of Jewish descent need to abjure the crimes that are being committed, supposedly in their name. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not a big fan of &quot;sandalistas.&quot; Inmure yourself in other people&#39;s politics and you are taking risks and need to be prepared for the consequences.</p>
<p>Americans need to be concerned is our mindless subsidization of the carnage and oppression, and our political linkage for no discernible good reason to a doomed crusader state. Persons of Jewish descent need to abjure the crimes that are being committed, supposedly in their name. </p>
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		<title>By: American</title>
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		<dc:creator>American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nothing needs to be added to what Bromwich wrote.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Except that nothing defines the corruption of America more than&lt;br /&gt;
Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When both your government and media is so corrupted that there is no truth there isn&#039;t much left to do but a bloody revolution...I guess that will come last.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing needs to be added to what Bromwich wrote.</p>
<p>Except that nothing defines the corruption of America more than<br />
Israel.</p>
<p>When both your government and media is so corrupted that there is no truth there isn&#39;t much left to do but a bloody revolution&#8230;I guess that will come last.</p>
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		<title>By: delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dreyfuss&#039;s piece at the Nation will warm Phil&#039;s heart.  Is Dreyfuss being too optimistic?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/418375/obama_rebuffs_israeli_hawk?rel=hp_picks&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreyfuss&#39;s piece at the Nation will warm Phil&#39;s heart.  Is Dreyfuss being too optimistic?</p>
<p>http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/418375/obama_rebuffs_israeli_hawk?rel=hp_picks</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Her emails to her mother reveal a young lady in the best tradition of what it means to be an American. Sadly she is denigrated, ignored, as each day our squandered good reputation sinks yet lower. It is now Bernie Madoff who represents the USA elite at home, and Likud-R Israel who represents us abroad. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her emails to her mother reveal a young lady in the best tradition of what it means to be an American. Sadly she is denigrated, ignored, as each day our squandered good reputation sinks yet lower. It is now Bernie Madoff who represents the USA elite at home, and Likud-R Israel who represents us abroad. </p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We certainly have no moral high ground in the Mideast between Israel and the oil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I think about where we are now, it could have all been avoided if we had pursued alternative fuel research with a vengeance back in the 70s when the red flags went up.  Instead, we coddled Saudi princes and built trucks and SUVs.  Japan went for fuel efficiency and they will be building cars while we arrange bailouts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;None of this had to be.  Without our dependence on the oil, pro-Israel American Jews would have had a much more difficult time ramming their agenda down our collective throat.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bromwich&#039;s Huffpo piece on Rachel Corrie is excellent.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We certainly have no moral high ground in the Mideast between Israel and the oil.</p>
<p>When I think about where we are now, it could have all been avoided if we had pursued alternative fuel research with a vengeance back in the 70s when the red flags went up.  Instead, we coddled Saudi princes and built trucks and SUVs.  Japan went for fuel efficiency and they will be building cars while we arrange bailouts.</p>
<p>None of this had to be.  Without our dependence on the oil, pro-Israel American Jews would have had a much more difficult time ramming their agenda down our collective throat.</p>
<p>Bromwich&#39;s Huffpo piece on Rachel Corrie is excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m all for energy efficiency, Liza, but SUVs and trucks are a drop int the bucket of energy use when compared to the energy used by the military and government. American auto makers are going broke because they make garbage at a higher cost than the Japanese make decent cars. I&#039;d look at complacent and arrogant industry management and lousy and currupt union employees and management to see what destroyed the U.S. auto industry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, I agree that the U.S. has no moral high ground in the Middle East.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m all for energy efficiency, Liza, but SUVs and trucks are a drop int the bucket of energy use when compared to the energy used by the military and government. American auto makers are going broke because they make garbage at a higher cost than the Japanese make decent cars. I&#39;d look at complacent and arrogant industry management and lousy and currupt union employees and management to see what destroyed the U.S. auto industry.</p>
<p>BTW, I agree that the U.S. has no moral high ground in the Middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: bar_kochba132</title>
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		<dc:creator>bar_kochba132</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have never understood why Rachel Corrie is referred to as a &quot;peace activist&quot;, unless, of course, the term is meant in an Orwellian sense. There is a well-known photo of her burning an American flag with a deranged look on her face with a bunch of Palestinian kids around her cheering her on? Wouldn&#039;t a &quot;peace activist&quot; be trying to encourage brotherhood between people and dialogue? How is burning a flag supposed to further this. Unless, as I said, it is meant in an Orwellian sense where things mean the opposite of what they say...i.e. by being a &quot;peace activist&quot; she is trying inflame passions.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never understood why Rachel Corrie is referred to as a &quot;peace activist&quot;, unless, of course, the term is meant in an Orwellian sense. There is a well-known photo of her burning an American flag with a deranged look on her face with a bunch of Palestinian kids around her cheering her on? Wouldn&#39;t a &quot;peace activist&quot; be trying to encourage brotherhood between people and dialogue? How is burning a flag supposed to further this. Unless, as I said, it is meant in an Orwellian sense where things mean the opposite of what they say&#8230;i.e. by being a &quot;peace activist&quot; she is trying inflame passions.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Berel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More like a Darwinian sense.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like a Darwinian sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Duscany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duscany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Liza: &quot;When I think about where we are now, it could have all been avoided if we had pursued alternative fuel research with a vengeance back in the 70s when the red flags went up. Instead, we coddled Saudi princes and built trucks and SUVs.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have no fondness for American car companies. But I think they made an effort to build energy efficient cars.   GM&#039;s electric car was beyond the technology of the time. It was incredibly expensive (GM would only lease them to customers at a steep loss). In the end GM couldn&#039;t afford to maintain the cars, which generally only got 70 miles or so per charge anyway.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Same thing with the GM Saturn. I remember all the type when GM decided to start manufacturing the Saturn. There was to be a new management style, feedback, consultation, a leveling of the hierarchical management pyramid. And in the end, I recently read, GM never made a penny off the Saturn. GM built big rear-wheel drive cars and pickups because that was where they made their money. When they tried to build small cars they went broke. I&#039;m sorry for people who work for GM (my dad used to work there). But that&#039;s life. Companies, like countries, constantly rise and fall. GM&#039;s time has come and gone. And America&#039;s will too, probably faster than we think.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liza: &quot;When I think about where we are now, it could have all been avoided if we had pursued alternative fuel research with a vengeance back in the 70s when the red flags went up. Instead, we coddled Saudi princes and built trucks and SUVs.&quot;</p>
<p>I have no fondness for American car companies. But I think they made an effort to build energy efficient cars.   GM&#39;s electric car was beyond the technology of the time. It was incredibly expensive (GM would only lease them to customers at a steep loss). In the end GM couldn&#39;t afford to maintain the cars, which generally only got 70 miles or so per charge anyway.</p>
<p>Same thing with the GM Saturn. I remember all the type when GM decided to start manufacturing the Saturn. There was to be a new management style, feedback, consultation, a leveling of the hierarchical management pyramid. And in the end, I recently read, GM never made a penny off the Saturn. GM built big rear-wheel drive cars and pickups because that was where they made their money. When they tried to build small cars they went broke. I&#39;m sorry for people who work for GM (my dad used to work there). But that&#39;s life. Companies, like countries, constantly rise and fall. GM&#39;s time has come and gone. And America&#39;s will too, probably faster than we think.</p>
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