Comments on: Read the fine print: Only one-third of US pledge at Gaza conference to go to Gaza, none of it for rebuilding http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 09:59:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28369 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28369 <p>Hamas boycotted the conference.</p> Hamas boycotted the conference.

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28370 Colin Murray Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28370 <p>There is obviously more to the story than merely a petulant Hamas boycott. This article is dated 26FEB2009. If you have a more recent reference for your assertion please provide it. </p> <p><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LQ283094.htm" rel="nofollow">Israel urges Gaza aid efforts not break Hamas boycott</a> </p> There is obviously more to the story than merely a petulant Hamas boycott. This article is dated 26FEB2009. If you have a more recent reference for your assertion please provide it.

Israel urges Gaza aid efforts not break Hamas boycott

]]> By: LD http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28371 LD Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28371 <p>Witty never gives context. He passes off superficial truths as uncontroversial. That's his dogma.</p> Witty never gives context. He passes off superficial truths as uncontroversial. That's his dogma.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28372 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28372 <p>I was wrong. I thought that Hamas had boycotted the conference. They in fact weren't invited.</p> I was wrong. I thought that Hamas had boycotted the conference. They in fact weren't invited.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28373 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28373 <p>Its a fantasy that open borders are a right.</p> Its a fantasy that open borders are a right.

]]> By: tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28374 tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28374 <p>Americans paid for Israel to destroy Gaza, and although Americans should find a way to pay to rebuild it, the monies should come from suspending US military aid already pledged to Israel. Had America reduced military aid to Israel earlier, Gaza may not have needed rebuilding. Reducing US military aid to Israel now will reduce the need to rebuild some other Palestinian or Lebanese area destroyed by Israel in future. </p> Americans paid for Israel to destroy Gaza, and although Americans should find a way to pay to rebuild it, the monies should come from suspending US military aid already pledged to Israel. Had America reduced military aid to Israel earlier, Gaza may not have needed rebuilding. Reducing US military aid to Israel now will reduce the need to rebuild some other Palestinian or Lebanese area destroyed by Israel in future.

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28375 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28375 <p><i>Hamas boycotted the conference.</i></p> <p>You are refering to the Cairo conference? But Phil's article is connected with the Sharm El Sheik conference. Were Hamas it seems wasn't invited. Am I confusing something? How can one boycott something, if one is not even invited?</p> <p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1067903.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1067903.html>Egypt: Gaza donations to go through UN and World Bank, Yoav Stern</a></p> <blockquote>Each of the 75 donor countries and international organizations participating in the one-day conference will decide how to distribute the funds, Egyptian officials have said. Advertisement Hamas and the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority are split over how to use the money, which is supposed to help Gaza recover from the Israel Defense Forces operation held in the Strip in December and January. Each of the two groups wants to control use of the funds, which has so far kept several countries from transferring money for Gaza. <p><b>Hamas has not been invited to participate in the one-day conference, which will be led by Egypt and Norway.</b></p> <p>Cairo is calling for the formation of a Palestinian unity government to ease recovery in the Hamas-controlled Strip. </blockquote><br /> </p> Hamas boycotted the conference.

You are refering to the Cairo conference? But Phil's article is connected with the Sharm El Sheik conference. Were Hamas it seems wasn't invited. Am I confusing something? How can one boycott something, if one is not even invited?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1067903.html>Egypt: Gaza donations to go through UN and World Bank, Yoav Stern

Each of the 75 donor countries and international organizations participating in the one-day conference will decide how to distribute the funds, Egyptian officials have said.
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Hamas and the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority are split over how to use the money, which is supposed to help Gaza recover from the Israel Defense Forces operation held in the Strip in December and January. Each of the two groups wants to control use of the funds, which has so far kept several countries from transferring money for Gaza.

Hamas has not been invited to participate in the one-day conference, which will be led by Egypt and Norway.

Cairo is calling for the formation of a Palestinian unity government to ease recovery in the Hamas-controlled Strip.

]]> By: tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28376 tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28376 <p>Those 75 donor countries should insist the US stop funding the destruction of Gaza, Beirut, olive groves, Palestinian homes, etc., before any rebuilding begins. Israel will destroy anything with the military materiel supplied by the US, so it makes no sense to rebuild while Israel still has the capability to blow everything up. Only the US can stifle Israel's urge to destroy. </p> Those 75 donor countries should insist the US stop funding the destruction of Gaza, Beirut, olive groves, Palestinian homes, etc., before any rebuilding begins. Israel will destroy anything with the military materiel supplied by the US, so it makes no sense to rebuild while Israel still has the capability to blow everything up. Only the US can stifle Israel's urge to destroy.

]]> By: Jaffr http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28377 Jaffr Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28377 <p>Witty: "Its a fantasy that open borders are a right."</p> <p>Correct, up to a point. No sovereign country is obligated to open its borders to a hostile neighbor. So Israel -- or Egypt -- can refuse commerce with Gaza if they choose, just as Lebanon and Syria refuse passage to Israelis.</p> <p>But -- hello! -- Gaza has a Mediterranean coastline and a port, which Israel blockades; likewise, the Gazans could, if Israel allowed, have access to the outside world through international airspace.</p> <p>That this dual siege remains in place is the surest sign of the continued Zionist occupation of Gaza, despite the obfuscation that deludes credulous supporters of Israel.</p> Witty: "Its a fantasy that open borders are a right."

Correct, up to a point. No sovereign country is obligated to open its borders to a hostile neighbor. So Israel — or Egypt — can refuse commerce with Gaza if they choose, just as Lebanon and Syria refuse passage to Israelis.

But — hello! — Gaza has a Mediterranean coastline and a port, which Israel blockades; likewise, the Gazans could, if Israel allowed, have access to the outside world through international airspace.

That this dual siege remains in place is the surest sign of the continued Zionist occupation of Gaza, despite the obfuscation that deludes credulous supporters of Israel.

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html/comment-page-1#comment-28378 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/02/read-the-fine-print-only-one-third-of-us-pledge-at-gaza-conference-to-go-to-gaza-none-of-it-for-rebu.html#comment-28378 <p>'Its a fantasy that open borders are a right.' -- Richard Witty</p> <p>From the United Nations website:</p> <p><b>Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.</p> <p>Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.</b></p> <p>http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/humanrights/declaration/13.asp</p> <p>Don't lie to me, boy. I eat hasbara for breakfast, and spit it out like poison nails.</p> 'Its a fantasy that open borders are a right.' — Richard Witty

From the United Nations website:

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/humanrights/declaration/13.asp

Don't lie to me, boy. I eat hasbara for breakfast, and spit it out like poison nails.

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