The unceasing smile of the 2-state blues

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Flowers Hillary Clinton and Shimon Peres in Jerusalem today; Photo by Menahem Kahana for AFP.
Anees of Jerusalem writes:
Did you see TV footage of Clinton's visit? I saw two quick clips. One in which, in a press conference type setting, Shimon Peres is holding a bouquet of flowers and giving her kiss after kiss after kiss. And the other in which she's standing next to Bibi Netanyahu and on her face is this unceasing smile. Hasbara overload!

Posted in Israel/Palestine, One state/Two states, US Politics

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  1. LanceThruster says:
    March 3, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    It's upsetting the contrast between how happy these two are, and the anquish in the faces of the victims of the slaughter in Gaza (at least those who weren't reduced to dead flesh in a pile of broken concrete).

    It just seems to be bad form to be so seemingly unconcerned about the devestation that has been wrought by these two powers. I expect next we'll see footage of either of these two dancing a jig on the rubble of Gaza.

  2. Sand says:
    March 3, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    I was just thinking that… Was Condi greeted with such open arms. Just plain gives me the creeps to what's to come.

    and when it comes to Iran…

    "Clinton said the US would consult with Israel on its approach to Iran. "When we talk about engagement with Iran, do not be in any way confused. Our goal remains the same: to dissuade and prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and continuing to fund terrorism," she said.

    "Whatever we do will be done thoughtfully in consultation with our friends and Israel, most particularly Israel."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/04/hillary-clinton-syria-us-policy

    Just plain creeps me out.

    Meanwhile from the same article two AIPAC'ers representing US fly to Syria…

  3. Chris Berel says:
    March 3, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I expect next we'll see footage of either of these two dancing a jig on the rubble of Gaza.

    Posted by: LanceThruster

    Why is LD confusing them with the typical Palestinians who dance when Jewish children are murdered in cold blood.

  4. MRW. says:
    March 3, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Read this.

    Fearing a One-State Solution, Israel’s President Serves Pabulum to Washington
    link to dissidentvoice.org

  5. Castellio says:
    March 3, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Hilary is still running for President, but now from the office of the Secretary of State. She will run over the bodies of the Palestinians and not notice a thing… will she run over the bodies of Iranians as well?

    Oh yes, and not feel a thing.

  6. LanceThruster says:
    March 3, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    While berel confuses LD with LT, he also fails to acknowledge the pics of Orthodox Jews (rabbis?) dancing/celebrating with IDF artillery units as they shelled southern Lebanon. The pics were taken around the same time as Israeli children/young girls writing messages of love and goodwill on IDF artillery shells before they were fired upon Lebanese civilians. WP, clusterbombs and DIME munitions included (Dense Inert Metal Explosives – see: link to ifamericansknew.org
    )

    But honesty (let alone coherence) is not the berel-bot's strong suit.

    Dancing on the graves of the innocent almost seems a fixation with the berel-boy, like he's Ted Bundy by proxy.

  7. Chris Berel says:
    March 3, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Honesty from lance? Don't be a fool. That antisemite wouldn't know the truth if it crawled up his ass and died. I wonder if it would ask the gerbal to move.

  8. Rowan says:
    March 4, 2009 at 12:05 am

    I keep telling you, the 'pubpol' or public politician, in Ferdinand Lundberg's terminology, is just a specialised sort of screen and stage actor. Here is the Lundberg reference:

    Finance capitalists (Ferdinand Lundberg has dubbed them finpols, or financial politicians) are understandably attempting to make their power as extensive as possible without incurring the severe risks which plague pubpols (public politicians). (It seems that only the most daring finpols are willing to take on the additional risks of pubpoldom, perhaps only because they are denied the reins to the family's fortune by more privileged relatives.) Pubpols lose their privacy and thus their right to sexual impropriety in addition to incurring vulnerability to electioneering and worse in "democratic" countries. In most areas of the world the lot of the pubpols is even worse. Purge, assassination, and armed coup are regular events …
    Occult Technology of Power (anon), section 11

  9. Rowan says:
    March 4, 2009 at 1:40 am

    I had the impression that some effort was going to be made to keep obscene trolling off this blog, by the way, as a result of my most recent formal compaint to Typepad about exactly that.

  10. Duscany says:
    March 4, 2009 at 3:12 am

    Rowan: "I had the impression that some effort was going to be made to keep obscene trolling off this blog, by the way, as a result of my most recent formal compaint to Typepad about exactly that."

    I think Phil ought to pick one of the people here who engage in personal and profane attacks, ban him and then post a message saying who was banned and why. It would be strong reminder that this site has standards. Right now the name calling and personal attacks are driving away the more thoughtful, informative and insightful visitors.

    Phil has occasionally expressed a reluctance to ban anyone on the grounds of free speech. But free speech is only guaranteed in publicly owned forums. When you own the house you don't have to allow hostile strangers to pee all over your living room.

  11. chris berel says:
    March 4, 2009 at 6:36 am

    Then banning Rowan will have that effect. Have at it. One less whiner will do the group good.

  12. Suzanne says:
    March 4, 2009 at 7:47 am

    If Phil is contemplating attracting centrists here, he needs to make a move to ban the anti-semitic riff raff. That will never fly with serious people.

  13. Jeff (Seattle) says:
    March 4, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Not only is this hasbara Kodak moment sending a message to the world that Hillary's still an AIPAC gal, it also seems to mock Clinton for her infamous kiss with Suha Arafat. (Not to be confused with the infamous kiss between Madonna and Britney Spears.)

  14. LanceThruster says:
    March 4, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    I have to agree with Rowan that it is past time to continue to suffer fools gladly (berel would most likely make an unfunny inversion of who the fool was so it's not like we're missing any worthwhile content). Even Suzanne has changed her tone a bit (though she ignores her own history here).

    The grace period's over. Commenters can be as contentious as they want; just not crude and sophomoric. It adds absolutely nothing to the conversation and is most likely meant to provoke a reaction that plays into their own prejudices, and barring that, merely to harass and annoy.

  15. MM says:
    March 4, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    If Phil is contemplating attracting centrists here, he needs to make a move to ban the anti-semitic riff raff. That will never fly with serious people.

    Why the hell would Phil want to contemplate attracting centrists? If he wants to soft-peddle the truth about American Zionism, he could write for the Observer again.

    And Suzy doll, he seems to have attracted you just fine even with all of us "anti-Semites" (wait wait wait, you're semitic? lol).

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