Comments on: What do you notice about this map?

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Its a single-state map.

By: chris berel

chris berel — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Phil, you just can't stop hate mongering, can you? Never satisfied until blood is shed, are you?

Hell breaks out when an official government source prints such a map. If the palestinian old ladies garden club printed such a map, no one cares. If hamas, Fatah, PA, or any other official or quasi-official organization does so, then the shit rightfully hits the fan, just as if any official or quasi-official israeli organization did so.

But they didn't of Jew-Sans-Clue.

And now you know why the name Phil's Phools is becoming well known.

By: Dan Kelly

Dan Kelly — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Looks like Palestine to me.

By: Rowan Berkeley

Rowan Berkeley — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Lubavitch are a deeply creepy organisation. Even the reformers, like Shmarya Rosenberg who runs the Failed Messiah blog, share the deeply creepy view that tikkun olam ultimately means that they will run the world - though it may be a different world in some subtle metaphysical sense, the sitra ahra having finally been abolished, or driven back into the qliphotic realm, or something. He admitted that to me, quite candidly, once.

Besides, they have a rather transparent deniability strategy, in that the real hard-core activists can always be disavowed, because, of course, they still think the old boy was the messiah. Shmarya told me he quite likes Dov Wolpe, a person of this sort who runs around the West Bank inflaming things,and it's regrettable that such a nice person believes the old man was the messiah. You see how the deniability even exploits the insiders, like Shmarya himself? Deniability can be a subtle form of solidarity.

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

I've written copy for brochures. I can tell you right now that space is a premium in advertising, and this goes on all the time. They are not selling Gaza etc. They are selling Purim in Israel.

You should know better, Phil. I'm surprised at you.

By: Rowan Berkeley

Rowan Berkeley — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Better than what, Suzanne?

By: Gert

Gert — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

The Democratic and Secular "Republic of Israel and Palestine", approx. AD 2020?

I'm guessing that's not what they meant...

Phil's right: it's not without its significance. But he overstates the case a bit.

Berel's doing the same: maybe he got a papercut reading the post? How is "blood going to be shed" over this post, Chris?

By: tree

tree — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

You don't know what you are talking about, Chris.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1164881821783

All hell broke loose among the right wing in 2006 when the Israeli Education Minister proposed that school textbooks in Israel would show the green line. Prior to that, NO Israeli government approved and issued textbook showed the Green Line. Within the JPost's description of the controversy comes this description of standard Israeli policy on textbook maps.

To that end, official government maps since the immediate aftermath of the Six Day War in 1967 have ignored the Green Line by government order.

So, are you going to apologize to Phil, or are you going to accuse the JPost of "anti-semitic lies"? I fully realize that there is this view of Israel that exists in your mind where nothing like this could or would happen. But the reality of Israel is quit different from how you imagine and wish it to be.

By: LD

LD — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

Antisemitism! Holocaust! Hitler! Nazis! Bagels!

By: Diane Mason

Diane Mason — Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000

And speaking of the Jerusalem Post, it seems that they too have a problem with cartography, if their daily weather "map of Israel" is anything to go by:

http://threemonthsinpalestine.blogspot.com/2005/12/weather-maps.html