Comments on: Portrait of an internet journalist who mixes dentistry and commitment http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:18:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Susan Goldstein http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-77002 Susan Goldstein Mon, 18 May 2009 16:28:54 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-77002 Dear Philip: I would like to speak with you at a convenient time. I work as a Producer with a PBS program Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly and I am researching a piece on "American Jews & Israel." Let me know how I can reach you. Thanks again, Susan Goldstein 202-216-2393 <a href="http://www.pbs.org/religion" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.pbs.org/religion</a rel="nofollow">" target="_blank">www.pbs.org/religion</a></a> Dear Philip: I would like to speak with you at a convenient time. I work as a Producer with a PBS program Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly and I am researching a piece on "American Jews & Israel." Let me know how I can reach you. Thanks again, Susan Goldstein 202-216-2393 http://www.pbs.org/religion

]]> By: al http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26669 al Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26669 <p>At least Brwonie got you o stop saying "inshallah"! Now maybe you two can wander into a pizzeria somewhere and blow yourselves up.</p> At least Brwonie got you o stop saying "inshallah"! Now maybe you two can wander into a pizzeria somewhere and blow yourselves up.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26670 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26670 <p>The same thing is happening in music. There is not much money to be made these days.</p> The same thing is happening in music. There is not much money to be made these days.

]]> By: tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26671 tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26671 <p>Newspapers, like every other industry in the US, has let down its clients. Reporting on Iraq is one area, certainly, but every big issue was misrepresented and then endorsed by the monopoly editorial board of most city newspapers. Most could be considered conservative, and most endorsed W. Bush in 2000. Like Detroit, the banks and Wall St., the newspaper business, and journalism in general, has failed to supply what the market wanted/needed because it had too much monopoly power and thought it could dictate terms of its content with its clients. That is how the US economy has been operating for some time. Markets are failing because people are choosing alternatives, or waiting for alternatives, so they can stop being captive market clients, whose participation makes them victims. </p> Newspapers, like every other industry in the US, has let down its clients. Reporting on Iraq is one area, certainly, but every big issue was misrepresented and then endorsed by the monopoly editorial board of most city newspapers. Most could be considered conservative, and most endorsed W. Bush in 2000. Like Detroit, the banks and Wall St., the newspaper business, and journalism in general, has failed to supply what the market wanted/needed because it had too much monopoly power and thought it could dictate terms of its content with its clients. That is how the US economy has been operating for some time. Markets are failing because people are choosing alternatives, or waiting for alternatives, so they can stop being captive market clients, whose participation makes them victims.

]]> By: Chris Berel http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26672 Chris Berel Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26672 <p>What a pair of jokers. The Internet is far easier to corrupt than Newspapers. Look at Weiss - a case in point.</p> <p>Newspapers were never anything but advertisement for something, whether it be someone's political views or a pair of socks.</p> What a pair of jokers. The Internet is far easier to corrupt than Newspapers. Look at Weiss – a case in point.

Newspapers were never anything but advertisement for something, whether it be someone's political views or a pair of socks.

]]> By: Doppler http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26673 Doppler Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26673 <p>In talking about the new media, don't overlook Judge Posner's incisive analysis, in which he suggested that, in the olden days, in two-newspaper towns, one would be conservative, the other liberal, and each would try to outdo the other in appealing to the center. Now in the brave new world, economic conditions are such that any number of "newspapers" or their equivalent can join the fray, and, if you're, say, the Rush Limbaugh version, you can lock up the ditto-head sector, by playing to their prejudices. So we end up with many flavors, each of which is pursuing a narrower public. We used to have to suck through a straw to get our news, now we are sprayed by a firehose. http://query.nytimes.com/search/article-printpage.html?_r=1&res=9407E2DB153CF932A05754C0A9639C8B63</p> <p>I think only journalists are deeply concerned about the economic impact, after all, the rest of us get the firehose for free.</p> <p>In the days of our founders, the firebrand revolutionaries who created America, were, for a certain part of the day, a "nation of shopkeepers." Jefferson had a nail factory, in addition to his plantation, law and architecture practices. Adams his farm and law practice. Franklin his Poor Richard's Almanac, plus inventor of stoves and electricity. Washington was a surveyor, in addition to planter and soldier.</p> <p>So the marketplace of ideas is being re-possessed by ordinary Americans, and not a second too soon.</p> <p>Why, our time could see a resurgence of the Renaissance, if the Dark Ages don't get us first.</p> In talking about the new media, don't overlook Judge Posner's incisive analysis, in which he suggested that, in the olden days, in two-newspaper towns, one would be conservative, the other liberal, and each would try to outdo the other in appealing to the center. Now in the brave new world, economic conditions are such that any number of "newspapers" or their equivalent can join the fray, and, if you're, say, the Rush Limbaugh version, you can lock up the ditto-head sector, by playing to their prejudices. So we end up with many flavors, each of which is pursuing a narrower public. We used to have to suck through a straw to get our news, now we are sprayed by a firehose. http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26674 <p>He has very few comments - probably has about 15-20 readers top.</p> <p>Sad...</p> <p>Considering hard hitting articles like "OMG kittens with Obama - cuteness overload!!!!!11!!!111" are the staple of DailyK.</p> <p>No dissent is tolerated on DK, it is full of true believers. Obama could nuke Palestine and DK would "rah rah" for Obama all the harder.</p> <p>Anyway, he has 21 readers now - subscribed.</p> He has very few comments – probably has about 15-20 readers top.

Sad…

Considering hard hitting articles like "OMG kittens with Obama – cuteness overload!!!!!11!!!111" are the staple of DailyK.

No dissent is tolerated on DK, it is full of true believers. Obama could nuke Palestine and DK would "rah rah" for Obama all the harder.

Anyway, he has 21 readers now – subscribed.

]]> By: Andy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26675 Andy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26675 <p>Does anyone remember the NYT's shameful role in the railroading of Wen Ho Lee? The NYT's 'slide in integrity' most definitely predates the Bush 43 era.</p> Does anyone remember the NYT's shameful role in the railroading of Wen Ho Lee? The NYT's 'slide in integrity' most definitely predates the Bush 43 era.

]]> By: Rowan http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26676 Rowan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26676 <p><i>The internet may be monetized. And gosh I hope it is. So I can finally get paid....</i></p> <p>--forget it.</p> The internet may be monetized. And gosh I hope it is. So I can finally get paid….

–forget it.

]]> By: syvanen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/03/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-26677 syvanen Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/03/09/when-people-say-the-new-york-times-did-great-coverage-of-congress-and-the-internet-is-destroying-the-great-newspapers-the-b.html#comment-26677 <p>Thank you Phil for bringing this one diarists story up. I have been reading many comments about current events over the past few years. What has struck me is the incredible level of talent out there. It really is interesting to see that one of those voices is 'just' a dentist. I have speculated on the backgrounds of where those voices are coming from -- so often they describe what I have been thinking, but they express themselves so much better. Phil, you to, with your writing makes it clear to me the difference a good writer can make in advancing a rational US goal in the IP debate.</p> Thank you Phil for bringing this one diarists story up. I have been reading many comments about current events over the past few years. What has struck me is the incredible level of talent out there. It really is interesting to see that one of those voices is 'just' a dentist. I have speculated on the backgrounds of where those voices are coming from — so often they describe what I have been thinking, but they express themselves so much better. Phil, you to, with your writing makes it clear to me the difference a good writer can make in advancing a rational US goal in the IP debate.

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