Comments on: Who is the bigger obstacle to peace, Netanyahu or Ahmadinejad? http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 09:59:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: rykart http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17050 rykart Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17050 <p>Rubbish.</p> <p>It is to the eternal shame of all the OTHER heads of state that they'd sooner boycott the conference than hear the truth about filth hole israel and its abominable crimes. If I have a criticism, it's that Ahmadinejad was far too lenient in his condemnation. </p> <p>"Those of us working to prevent an attack on Iraq can only hope that President Ahmadinejad will not be re-elected this summer"</p> <p>I assume you mean an attack on Iran, a monstrous crime against humanity which is being plotted as we speak, while you condemn Iran's leader. </p> <p>This is the wrong editorial at the wrong time and stands on the WRONG side of the issue. As for the UN's callous support of Judeo-Nazism, this is a day that will live in infamy. </p> Rubbish.

It is to the eternal shame of all the OTHER heads of state that they'd sooner boycott the conference than hear the truth about filth hole israel and its abominable crimes. If I have a criticism, it's that Ahmadinejad was far too lenient in his condemnation.

"Those of us working to prevent an attack on Iraq can only hope that President Ahmadinejad will not be re-elected this summer"

I assume you mean an attack on Iran, a monstrous crime against humanity which is being plotted as we speak, while you condemn Iran's leader.

This is the wrong editorial at the wrong time and stands on the WRONG side of the issue. As for the UN's callous support of Judeo-Nazism, this is a day that will live in infamy.

]]> By: tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17051 tommy Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17051 <p>Ahmadinejad may be Iran's W. Bush, but he has not invaded any countries, let alone weak ones that pose no threat to Iran's national security, so even that analogy is a stretch. W. Bush also was unable to coherently articulate any argument regarding the rights of an oppressed people. W. Bush liked oppressing people. Ahmadinejad uses words, not bullets, not air to ground missiles nor white phosphorus to engage in conflict with Iran's antagonists. Claiming the Iranian president is an obstacle to peace for creating conflict with words is the same as saying Iraq had nuclear weapons poised to strike the US, which would be something analogous to what W. Bush would say. Ahmadinejad should exclaim his non-nuclear armed nation has US and Israeli nuclear weapons trained on it because of his words, but not for any deeds. </p> Ahmadinejad may be Iran's W. Bush, but he has not invaded any countries, let alone weak ones that pose no threat to Iran's national security, so even that analogy is a stretch. W. Bush also was unable to coherently articulate any argument regarding the rights of an oppressed people. W. Bush liked oppressing people. Ahmadinejad uses words, not bullets, not air to ground missiles nor white phosphorus to engage in conflict with Iran's antagonists. Claiming the Iranian president is an obstacle to peace for creating conflict with words is the same as saying Iraq had nuclear weapons poised to strike the US, which would be something analogous to what W. Bush would say. Ahmadinejad should exclaim his non-nuclear armed nation has US and Israeli nuclear weapons trained on it because of his words, but not for any deeds.

]]> By: Conscientious Objector http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17052 Conscientious Objector Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17052 <p>Well, look, it certainly wasn't helpful to the Mondoweiss momentum. This forum is so poisoned, it makes no sense for the UN to host it.</p> Well, look, it certainly wasn't helpful to the Mondoweiss momentum. This forum is so poisoned, it makes no sense for the UN to host it.

]]> By: Anthony http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17053 Anthony Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17053 <p>I have to agree with him. Ahmadinejad was a disgrace. He has made things much worse.</p> <p>And I say this as an Iranian who has suffered both under the Shah and the post-revolutionary regime. </p> I have to agree with him. Ahmadinejad was a disgrace. He has made things much worse.

And I say this as an Iranian who has suffered both under the Shah and the post-revolutionary regime.

]]> By: rykart http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17054 rykart Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17054 <p>I keep hearing what a disgrace he was but every single quote they list could have been drawn from Bt' selem or Ha'artz. The disgrace is that he was the only one to speak our about the abomination known as Israel.</p> <p>The Israelis are Nazi worms, bearing only vague resemblance to human beings. It has to be stated and restated at every opportunity,</p> I keep hearing what a disgrace he was but every single quote they list could have been drawn from Bt' selem or Ha'artz. The disgrace is that he was the only one to speak our about the abomination known as Israel.

The Israelis are Nazi worms, bearing only vague resemblance to human beings. It has to be stated and restated at every opportunity,

]]> By: peters http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17055 peters Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17055 <p>it seems that the more intelligent approach is to grasp what ahmandinejad's point of view is and why he holds it. that information can used to form a response. </p> it seems that the more intelligent approach is to grasp what ahmandinejad's point of view is and why he holds it. that information can used to form a response.

]]> By: Jim Haygood http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17056 Jim Haygood Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17056 <p>Good job policing the forums. I suppose calling Jews worms with only vague resemblence to humans is ok? How about personally threating to kill a poster? Would that be ok?</p> Good job policing the forums. I suppose calling Jews worms with only vague resemblence to humans is ok? How about personally threating to kill a poster? Would that be ok?

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17057 Mooser Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17057 <p>rykart, ix-nay on the Azi-nay orm-way stuff, you know what I'm saying? Remember, if they think we don't like them, they will never change a thing, just to spite us. Honey vs. vinegar, all that.</p> rykart, ix-nay on the Azi-nay orm-way stuff, you know what I'm saying? Remember, if they think we don't like them, they will never change a thing, just to spite us. Honey vs. vinegar, all that.

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17058 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17058 <p>come on, rykart. This guy is absolutely nuts. I have read similarly crazy stuff from Iranian ideologues in the field of art. The conspiratorial use of US animation films. I am not saying some things aren't relevant, it's the crazy organization of the whole speech, plus his obvious obsession.</p> <p><i>His short dissertation on that topic was so theologically infused and ethereal, I'm not religious enough to comment.</i></p> <p>Superficial religious glue, if you ask me. I find it hard to believe in religious utopias looking back over the ages, as he ironically realizes, although he gives no religion as the cause here:</p> <blockquote>In the Medieval Ages, thinkers and scientists were sentenced to death. It was then followed by a period of slavery and slave trade.</blockquote> <p>Is he aware the religious were the "the power grabbing" perpetrators then? He doesn't tell his audience, it would harm the "harmony" of his tale. It feels his perspective shifts constantly, or he leaves it open for whoever to fill in the voids.</p> <p>Bad translator: Medieval Ages - medieval times or Middle Ages. But interesting chronology, nevertheless.</p> <p><b>I would appreciate Mohammad of Vancouver's comment.</b> No comment over at <a href="http://www.juancole.com/" rel="nofollow">Juan Cole</a> yet, and maybe we shouldn't expect one.<br /> </p> come on, rykart. This guy is absolutely nuts. I have read similarly crazy stuff from Iranian ideologues in the field of art. The conspiratorial use of US animation films. I am not saying some things aren't relevant, it's the crazy organization of the whole speech, plus his obvious obsession.

His short dissertation on that topic was so theologically infused and ethereal, I'm not religious enough to comment.

Superficial religious glue, if you ask me. I find it hard to believe in religious utopias looking back over the ages, as he ironically realizes, although he gives no religion as the cause here:

In the Medieval Ages, thinkers and scientists were sentenced to death. It was then followed by a period of slavery and slave trade.

Is he aware the religious were the "the power grabbing" perpetrators then? He doesn't tell his audience, it would harm the "harmony" of his tale. It feels his perspective shifts constantly, or he leaves it open for whoever to fill in the voids.

Bad translator: Medieval Ages – medieval times or Middle Ages. But interesting chronology, nevertheless.

I would appreciate Mohammad of Vancouver's comment. No comment over at Juan Cole yet, and maybe we shouldn't expect one.

]]> By: LeaNder http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html/comment-page-1#comment-17059 LeaNder Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/21/who-is-the-bigger-obstacle-to-peace-netanyahu-or-ahmadinejad.html#comment-17059 <p>caught my eye: the religious were - meaning: religious bodies were </p> caught my eye: the religious were – meaning: religious bodies were

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