Comments on: Why single out Israel? Because we have been told that black is white repeatedly, and that is an assault on a person’s dignity that fosters rage http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:15:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: otto http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21113 otto Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21113 <p>Well-observed.</p> Well-observed.

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21114 Colin Murray Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21114 <p>/agree otto<br /> This is my own experience exactly. The longer you fool people, or help them fool themselves, the more angry they are when they finally acknowledge to themselves that they have been suckers. If the Lobby were smart, they would repackage their PR, now that it is obvious that American awareness is inexorably awakening.</p> /agree otto
This is my own experience exactly. The longer you fool people, or help them fool themselves, the more angry they are when they finally acknowledge to themselves that they have been suckers. If the Lobby were smart, they would repackage their PR, now that it is obvious that American awareness is inexorably awakening.

]]> By: Doppler http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21115 Doppler Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21115 <p>"Mendacious propaganda, and being submitted to it, constitutes an assault on one’s personal dignity."</p> <p>13 little words that say so much. Let them be heard and repeated in the press room, in the faculty senates, in the Halls of Congress. Let's get back to following the truth, wherever it may lead us, and not tolerating error any longer.</p> <p>And rather than exploding in rage with the realization, let's each of these places establish little informal truth and reconciliation commissions, to sort out the truth from the lies, hold people accountable, but without the Anti-Semitic part. And I use "Anti-Semitic" in its traditional racist meaning, not the mendacious way in which opposition to murderous Israeli and Neocon policies has been smeared in recent years.</p> "Mendacious propaganda, and being submitted to it, constitutes an assault on one’s personal dignity."

13 little words that say so much. Let them be heard and repeated in the press room, in the faculty senates, in the Halls of Congress. Let's get back to following the truth, wherever it may lead us, and not tolerating error any longer.

And rather than exploding in rage with the realization, let's each of these places establish little informal truth and reconciliation commissions, to sort out the truth from the lies, hold people accountable, but without the Anti-Semitic part. And I use "Anti-Semitic" in its traditional racist meaning, not the mendacious way in which opposition to murderous Israeli and Neocon policies has been smeared in recent years.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21116 Citizen Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21116 <p>Witty still does not get this, your childhood buddy. He thinks he can always hoodwinked the dumb goyim. He sure has a lot of support for his POV, thanks to how little information has been given to the American people by those who call the shots in the MSM. If the Lobby and Witty were smart, given their agenda of saving Israel as an insurance policy for diaspora Jews with the high premiums paid<br /> by unintentionally ignorant goys, the Lobby, including Witty, would not merely repackage their PR, but actually 'fess up' and set out the truth, and let the chips fall where they may--but that would<br /> involve giving USA goys the benefit of the doubt that they will be fair, given all that has happened in their name and in light of the Shoah. </p> Witty still does not get this, your childhood buddy. He thinks he can always hoodwinked the dumb goyim. He sure has a lot of support for his POV, thanks to how little information has been given to the American people by those who call the shots in the MSM. If the Lobby and Witty were smart, given their agenda of saving Israel as an insurance policy for diaspora Jews with the high premiums paid
by unintentionally ignorant goys, the Lobby, including Witty, would not merely repackage their PR, but actually 'fess up' and set out the truth, and let the chips fall where they may–but that would
involve giving USA goys the benefit of the doubt that they will be fair, given all that has happened in their name and in light of the Shoah.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21117 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21117 <p>You do get though the oddness of the Arab League defending the president of Sudan, insisting that the ICC not try him.</p> <p>Citizen,<br /> You do not support your argument by misrepresenting my views. You don't know what I think, or why. Why not acknowledge that, and instead address what is presented?</p> <p>I consistently argue for the Arab League proposal as far as definitions of sovereignty, and for the rule of law applied in a color-blind manner for ALL contested title claims, most by Palestinians in Israel and settlements, and some by Jews in the West Bank.</p> <p>I know that you disagree with my preference for financial settlement to perfect title on land that Israelis now reside. I know that you disagree with my sympathy for those settlers that would be forcefully dispossessed by the application of "remove all the settlement", but I am NOT in the business of suggesting punitive measures.</p> <p>And, I object to demonization. I don't do it. And, I contest it being done to others.</p> <p>I criticize actions and policies, and INCLUDE criticism of Hamas, because I observe that they effect a great deal, and are far more than mere victims.</p> You do get though the oddness of the Arab League defending the president of Sudan, insisting that the ICC not try him.

Citizen,
You do not support your argument by misrepresenting my views. You don't know what I think, or why. Why not acknowledge that, and instead address what is presented?

I consistently argue for the Arab League proposal as far as definitions of sovereignty, and for the rule of law applied in a color-blind manner for ALL contested title claims, most by Palestinians in Israel and settlements, and some by Jews in the West Bank.

I know that you disagree with my preference for financial settlement to perfect title on land that Israelis now reside. I know that you disagree with my sympathy for those settlers that would be forcefully dispossessed by the application of "remove all the settlement", but I am NOT in the business of suggesting punitive measures.

And, I object to demonization. I don't do it. And, I contest it being done to others.

I criticize actions and policies, and INCLUDE criticism of Hamas, because I observe that they effect a great deal, and are far more than mere victims.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21118 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21118 <p>Phil,<br /> Your comment on the American Conservative interview was informative. You described your focus on Israel as an obsession.</p> Phil,
Your comment on the American Conservative interview was informative. You described your focus on Israel as an obsession.

]]> By: Rowan http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21119 Rowan Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21119 <p>Richard, we all know what you 'think,' if it can be dignified by that name. It's mental drool, and it is monotonous in the extreme. It never varies in the slghtest, nor does it ever contain any real information whatever.</p> Richard, we all know what you 'think,' if it can be dignified by that name. It's mental drool, and it is monotonous in the extreme. It never varies in the slghtest, nor does it ever contain any real information whatever.

]]> By: American http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21120 American Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21120 <p>Yep...the Black is White fury describes it. </p> <p>Since I started following this 7 years ago, every black is white, every lie, by the jews/zionist/politicans/media just increased my fury. Every comment I make is just a way of expelling that anger.</p> <p>When I first started researching this it was to prove to myself there was more to it than I knew and the US couldn't possibily be supporting and complict in Israel's actions. It was inconceivable to me then.<br /> Then it was that our congress/WH couldn't possibly be selling out America for Israel.<br /> Then it was that the jews, given their history, couldn't possibily be undermining American's interest and destroying themselves here for Israel.</p> <p>But what I found instead was indisputable evidence that all this was indeed exactly what was happening.</p> <p> </p> Yep…the Black is White fury describes it.

Since I started following this 7 years ago, every black is white, every lie, by the jews/zionist/politicans/media just increased my fury. Every comment I make is just a way of expelling that anger.

When I first started researching this it was to prove to myself there was more to it than I knew and the US couldn't possibily be supporting and complict in Israel's actions. It was inconceivable to me then.
Then it was that our congress/WH couldn't possibly be selling out America for Israel.
Then it was that the jews, given their history, couldn't possibily be undermining American's interest and destroying themselves here for Israel.

But what I found instead was indisputable evidence that all this was indeed exactly what was happening.

]]> By: Peter V. http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21121 Peter V. Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21121 <p>Richard, with all due respect, your remark about the Arab League is telling: the League in general is offered nowhere near the endless number of high profile forums to make or explain their positions (however repugnant), unlike those who support Israel's questionable actions, which are emblazoned on the editorial pages of every major U.S. paper almost reflexively.</p> Richard, with all due respect, your remark about the Arab League is telling: the League in general is offered nowhere near the endless number of high profile forums to make or explain their positions (however repugnant), unlike those who support Israel's questionable actions, which are emblazoned on the editorial pages of every major U.S. paper almost reflexively.

]]> By: Richard Witty http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html/comment-page-1#comment-21122 Richard Witty Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/02/why-single-out-israel-because-we-have-been-told-that-black-is-white-repeatedly-and-that-is-an-assaul.html#comment-21122 <p>Peter,<br /> The Arab League should be offered forums to make their proposal.</p> <p>Then they would be on multiple record, with the opportunity of press to inquire as to specifics.</p> Peter,
The Arab League should be offered forums to make their proposal.

Then they would be on multiple record, with the opportunity of press to inquire as to specifics.

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