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	<title>Comments on: Jewish activists used to be shut out of the discussion about Israel in the Jewish community &#8211; now they&#8217;re driving the debate</title>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/a-debate-that-can-no-longer-be-contained.html/comment-page-1#comment-78919</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Another point I&#039;ve got to ask about: why are so many of these Jewish American anti-Zionist peace activists women? Where are the men?&lt;/i&gt;    Chasing &lt;i&gt;schicksas&lt;/i&gt;, no doubt, damn them!  Good Gott in himmelfarb, what is happening to this world? All the Jewish men are marrying Gentiles, most of them women, all the black guys are marrying white women, and vice versa.  What&#039;s next?  Not me, damn it! I&#039;m a good Jewish boy, and I am saving myself for the man I marry!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Another point I&#039;ve got to ask about: why are so many of these Jewish American anti-Zionist peace activists women? Where are the men?</i>    Chasing <i>schicksas</i>, no doubt, damn them!  Good Gott in himmelfarb, what is happening to this world? All the Jewish men are marrying Gentiles, most of them women, all the black guys are marrying white women, and vice versa.  What&#039;s next?  Not me, damn it! I&#039;m a good Jewish boy, and I am saving myself for the man I marry!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Operationally, the Zionists employ two basic waves of shock troop: the Naked Aggressors, followed by Victim Peddlers. The first wave does the knife work, and then the second wave comes in and invokes the Jewish Victim Narrative to shut down those who object to the knifings.     Adam Levick as part of the second wave, a peddler of one of the endless variation of &quot;Us Jews are historical victims. Your resistance to our actions is proof that you want to victimize us, too.&quot; Usually the more effete Jews are utilized as second-wavers, and nearly all of the Jewish Zionists in America are second-wavers, otherwise they would be in Israel fighting the trench warfare. Instead, they&#039;re in America, hiding in their mother&#039;s skirts, only to emerge to broadcast the Jews&#039; eternal victim status to all of those foolish enough to listen, and suggest that Americans who object to Israeli atrocities and Israel&#039;s endless welfare at America&#039;s expense are anti-Jewish bigots.     And maybe they are -- or have become so as a result of the behavior of Zionists who have been allowed and encouraged to interweave themselves with organized Judaism.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Operationally, the Zionists employ two basic waves of shock troop: the Naked Aggressors, followed by Victim Peddlers. The first wave does the knife work, and then the second wave comes in and invokes the Jewish Victim Narrative to shut down those who object to the knifings.     Adam Levick as part of the second wave, a peddler of one of the endless variation of &quot;Us Jews are historical victims. Your resistance to our actions is proof that you want to victimize us, too.&quot; Usually the more effete Jews are utilized as second-wavers, and nearly all of the Jewish Zionists in America are second-wavers, otherwise they would be in Israel fighting the trench warfare. Instead, they&#039;re in America, hiding in their mother&#039;s skirts, only to emerge to broadcast the Jews&#039; eternal victim status to all of those foolish enough to listen, and suggest that Americans who object to Israeli atrocities and Israel&#039;s endless welfare at America&#039;s expense are anti-Jewish bigots.     And maybe they are &#8212; or have become so as a result of the behavior of Zionists who have been allowed and encouraged to interweave themselves with organized Judaism.</p>
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		<title>By: neighbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if somebody uprooted the cosmetic only trees (not olive or fruit trees to live off of) in Adam Levick&#039;s yard. He&#039;d be  whining constantly on 9-1-1, claiming how much he pays the local goy cops out of his taxes.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if somebody uprooted the cosmetic only trees (not olive or fruit trees to live off of) in Adam Levick&#039;s yard. He&#039;d be  whining constantly on 9-1-1, claiming how much he pays the local goy cops out of his taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Levick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Levick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is rich!  My assertion that much of the anti-Zionist left engages in &quot;hyperbole, vitriol, and vilification&quot; is refuted by a diatribe claiming that: &quot;If another Holocaust is indeed gestating, it is the JUDEOFASCIST Zionist mentality and greed that is feeding it,&quot;    The irony is exquisite:)  Another favorite phrase I find posted on this site is JUDEONAZIS.   JUDEOFASCISTS and JUDEONAZIS Unite!      Oh, and by the way, Horowitz&#039;s post conveniently left some facts....didn&#039;t let his readers see &quot;the whole picture&quot;, about   the rally outside the Israeli Film Festival...specifically, the flyer passed out at the rally, which I&#039;d be happy to forward to anyone.  It made reference to Israeli Apartheid, Israeli racism,, and leveled a quite explicit charge that Israel was committing &quot;crimes against humanity&quot;.   Hmmm...racism, Apartheid, crimes against humanity....such restrained rhetoric...how could I have possibly claimed that the group sponsoring the protest engaged in vitriol?        Finally, one of the signs at the rally was (quite unintentionally) funny.  It claimed Israel was &quot;Uprooting Trees&quot;.  Oh, the horror!  Us Zionazis also aren&#039;t Green.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rich!  My assertion that much of the anti-Zionist left engages in &quot;hyperbole, vitriol, and vilification&quot; is refuted by a diatribe claiming that: &quot;If another Holocaust is indeed gestating, it is the JUDEOFASCIST Zionist mentality and greed that is feeding it,&quot;    The irony is exquisite:)  Another favorite phrase I find posted on this site is JUDEONAZIS.   JUDEOFASCISTS and JUDEONAZIS Unite!      Oh, and by the way, Horowitz&#039;s post conveniently left some facts&#8230;.didn&#039;t let his readers see &quot;the whole picture&quot;, about   the rally outside the Israeli Film Festival&#8230;specifically, the flyer passed out at the rally, which I&#039;d be happy to forward to anyone.  It made reference to Israeli Apartheid, Israeli racism,, and leveled a quite explicit charge that Israel was committing &quot;crimes against humanity&quot;.   Hmmm&#8230;racism, Apartheid, crimes against humanity&#8230;.such restrained rhetoric&#8230;how could I have possibly claimed that the group sponsoring the protest engaged in vitriol?        Finally, one of the signs at the rally was (quite unintentionally) funny.  It claimed Israel was &quot;Uprooting Trees&quot;.  Oh, the horror!  Us Zionazis also aren&#039;t Green.</p>
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		<title>By: Cut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Ed is saying the opposite. Then again, no real man ever accused most Jewish males of being heroic. Jewish literature is full of how they are enmeshed with their mothers. I guess their balls were cut of with their foreskins.... The poor ones end up with a Jewess nag; the rich ones with a tramp shiksa who uses them for a wallet. Especially the ugly  &amp; short ones.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Ed is saying the opposite. Then again, no real man ever accused most Jewish males of being heroic. Jewish literature is full of how they are enmeshed with their mothers. I guess their balls were cut of with their foreskins&#8230;. The poor ones end up with a Jewess nag; the rich ones with a tramp shiksa who uses them for a wallet. Especially the ugly  &amp; short ones.</p>
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		<title>By: bittiwitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>bittiwitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL  Witty is totally blind. Please, Mister Witty, immigrate to Israel. You are a canker on the American body. You need large  doses of vitamin B-12.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL  Witty is totally blind. Please, Mister Witty, immigrate to Israel. You are a canker on the American body. You need large  doses of vitamin B-12.</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe ben Kelev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moshe ben Kelev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Jews are the ones who will tell you what a mental disease is.    A related piece of T-Shirt wisdom goes like this: &quot;You have to be Juan to know Juan&quot;    &gt; If you find fault with their reasoning, their assumptions--that just proves you are mentally ill.  This reminds me of &quot;If you are not with us, you are against us&quot; - remember that creep? And it is pretty paranoid a thing to say.    And BTW, I find great fault in the reasoning of Jews when it comes to the notion that Palestinians (and, actually, ALL non-jews), are worth less than cattle,  ... this kind of &quot;reasoning&quot; supported, I understand, by a majority of jews (about 90% in respect of the last Gaza atrocity).     Am I crazy because of that, or, am I on the same page with the rest of humanity, those of us who insinctively reject the moral particularism at the root of zionism (which is actually modernized pharisaism) inculcated into jews by your masters, the rabbis ? If that makes me crazy, well ...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Jews are the ones who will tell you what a mental disease is.    A related piece of T-Shirt wisdom goes like this: &quot;You have to be Juan to know Juan&quot;    &gt; If you find fault with their reasoning, their assumptions&#8211;that just proves you are mentally ill.  This reminds me of &quot;If you are not with us, you are against us&quot; &#8211; remember that creep? And it is pretty paranoid a thing to say.    And BTW, I find great fault in the reasoning of Jews when it comes to the notion that Palestinians (and, actually, ALL non-jews), are worth less than cattle,  &#8230; this kind of &quot;reasoning&quot; supported, I understand, by a majority of jews (about 90% in respect of the last Gaza atrocity).     Am I crazy because of that, or, am I on the same page with the rest of humanity, those of us who insinctively reject the moral particularism at the root of zionism (which is actually modernized pharisaism) inculcated into jews by your masters, the rabbis ? If that makes me crazy, well &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacobwolfen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacobwolfen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are saying that Martillo is insane? How interesting.      Come around with your axe handle. You&#039;ll never guess where it will be shoved. PS: You won&#039;t enjoy it. But than, maybe you will.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are saying that Martillo is insane? How interesting.      Come around with your axe handle. You&#039;ll never guess where it will be shoved. PS: You won&#039;t enjoy it. But than, maybe you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point I&#039;ve got to ask about: why are so many of these Jewish American anti-Zionist peace activists women? Where are the men? It seems to me most of the pictures and most of the reporting that Weiss and Horowitz have done from the field disproportionately involves women.    Could it be that politically correct, emasculated, left-liberal American society has reduced most of the Jewish men who would otherwise be standing up to these Judeofascist thugs to a bunch of hand-wringing Woody Allens? Martillo is about the only Jew with any balls to really go after the Zionists -- and he cut his teeth in Israel! Time to grow a pair, lads. Quit sticking around home, sniffing mother&#039;s panty drawer and get out there at these rallies and start chasing some of that tail. And take an axe-handle to the clay feet of these Judeofascist Zionist thugs while you&#039;re at it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point I&#039;ve got to ask about: why are so many of these Jewish American anti-Zionist peace activists women? Where are the men? It seems to me most of the pictures and most of the reporting that Weiss and Horowitz have done from the field disproportionately involves women.    Could it be that politically correct, emasculated, left-liberal American society has reduced most of the Jewish men who would otherwise be standing up to these Judeofascist thugs to a bunch of hand-wringing Woody Allens? Martillo is about the only Jew with any balls to really go after the Zionists &#8212; and he cut his teeth in Israel! Time to grow a pair, lads. Quit sticking around home, sniffing mother&#039;s panty drawer and get out there at these rallies and start chasing some of that tail. And take an axe-handle to the clay feet of these Judeofascist Zionist thugs while you&#039;re at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levick on Jews holding a banner that simply reads &quot;See the Whole Picture: &quot;If you&#039;re really committed to a better world, why do you insist on using such incendiary and hyperbolic rhetoric? Vilification and vitriol is a blind alley that takes us nowhere.&quot;    This is so typically Zionist. Any resistance, no matter how meek, is an &quot;incendiary, vitriolic, vilification&quot; of Jews. Another Holocaust in gestation. Of course, they don&#039;t really believe their own rhetoric. It&#039;s all shrewd and shameless manipulation and emotional blackmail employed so they can perpetually have their way with minimal resistance.     If another Holocaust is indeed gestating, it is the Judeofascist Zionist mentality and greed that is feeding it, not a few Jews holding a banner that reads &#8220;See the Whole Picture.&#8221; The Zionists are actually accusing peaceful Jews of what they know themselves to be guilty of: stirring up hatred towards Jews. How shameless. How slimy. In some ways, I&#039;m surprised that non-Judeofascist Jews haven&#039;t already strung up the Zionists as pay-back.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levick on Jews holding a banner that simply reads &quot;See the Whole Picture: &quot;If you&#039;re really committed to a better world, why do you insist on using such incendiary and hyperbolic rhetoric? Vilification and vitriol is a blind alley that takes us nowhere.&quot;    This is so typically Zionist. Any resistance, no matter how meek, is an &quot;incendiary, vitriolic, vilification&quot; of Jews. Another Holocaust in gestation. Of course, they don&#039;t really believe their own rhetoric. It&#039;s all shrewd and shameless manipulation and emotional blackmail employed so they can perpetually have their way with minimal resistance.     If another Holocaust is indeed gestating, it is the Judeofascist Zionist mentality and greed that is feeding it, not a few Jews holding a banner that reads &ldquo;See the Whole Picture.&rdquo; The Zionists are actually accusing peaceful Jews of what they know themselves to be guilty of: stirring up hatred towards Jews. How shameless. How slimy. In some ways, I&#039;m surprised that non-Judeofascist Jews haven&#039;t already strung up the Zionists as pay-back.</p>
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