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	<title>Comments on: AIPAC speakers portray Ahmadinejad as a &#8216;gift&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
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		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;What are they thinking?&quot;        ARTICLE: &quot;Will Israel Attack Iran?&quot;, by Roane Carey and Tom Engelhardt - April 13, 2009        (EXCERPT) This attitude reflects a long-standing Israeli strategic principle: that no neighboring state or combination of states can ever be allowed to achieve anything faintly approaching military parity, because if they do, they will try to destroy the Jewish state. By this logic, Israel&#8217;s only option is to establish and then maintain absolute military superiority over its neighbors; they will, so this view goes, accept Israel&#8217;s presence only if they know they&#8217;re sure to be defeated, or at least vastly outmatched.        This is the famous &#8220;iron wall,&#8221; conceived by early Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky more than 80 years ago, well before the founding of Israel itself. (Jabotinsky founded the Revisionist movement, which in opposition to the Labor mainstream refused to accept any territorial compromise regarding Zionist aims, such as partition. Although he and his followers were for years shut out of the political leadership, their views regarding Israel&#8217;s neighbors became deeply lodged in the public psyche.) If Iran were to acquire the capacity to build even one nuke &#8211; Israel itself is estimated to have 150-200 of them &#8211; that iron wall would be considered seriously breached, and the country might no longer be able to dictate terms to its neighbors. Given Iran&#8217;s support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, Israel would then have to recalibrate its strategy both on its northern front and vis-&#224;-vis the Palestinians...        ENTIRE ARTICLE - &lt;a href=&quot;http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/will-israel-attack-iran/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/will-israe...&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/will-israe...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &quot;What are they thinking?&quot;        ARTICLE: &quot;Will Israel Attack Iran?&quot;, by Roane Carey and Tom Engelhardt &#8211; April 13, 2009        (EXCERPT) This attitude reflects a long-standing Israeli strategic principle: that no neighboring state or combination of states can ever be allowed to achieve anything faintly approaching military parity, because if they do, they will try to destroy the Jewish state. By this logic, Israel&rsquo;s only option is to establish and then maintain absolute military superiority over its neighbors; they will, so this view goes, accept Israel&rsquo;s presence only if they know they&rsquo;re sure to be defeated, or at least vastly outmatched.        This is the famous &ldquo;iron wall,&rdquo; conceived by early Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky more than 80 years ago, well before the founding of Israel itself. (Jabotinsky founded the Revisionist movement, which in opposition to the Labor mainstream refused to accept any territorial compromise regarding Zionist aims, such as partition. Although he and his followers were for years shut out of the political leadership, their views regarding Israel&rsquo;s neighbors became deeply lodged in the public psyche.) If Iran were to acquire the capacity to build even one nuke &ndash; Israel itself is estimated to have 150-200 of them &ndash; that iron wall would be considered seriously breached, and the country might no longer be able to dictate terms to its neighbors. Given Iran&rsquo;s support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, Israel would then have to recalibrate its strategy both on its northern front and vis-&agrave;-vis the Palestinians&#8230;        ENTIRE ARTICLE &#8211; <a href="http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/will-israel-attack-iran/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/will-israe...</a></p>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
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		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;Without Ahmadinejad it will be an even more challenging task.&quot;    MY COMMENT: I wonder what Israel is doing to ensure Ahmadinejad&#039;s reelection.      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &quot;Without Ahmadinejad it will be an even more challenging task.&quot;    MY COMMENT: I wonder what Israel is doing to ensure Ahmadinejad&#039;s reelection.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuyzentfloot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuyzentfloot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good article on Ahmadinejad &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/113104&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/11310...&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/11310...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  , by Hooman Majd.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good article on Ahmadinejad <a href="http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/113104" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/11310...</a>  , by Hooman Majd.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Strahl&quot;,  Show me a Richard Witty quote using the term &quot;terrorist organization&quot;, that you so strawly condemn.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Strahl&quot;,  Show me a Richard Witty quote using the term &quot;terrorist organization&quot;, that you so strawly condemn.</p>
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		<title>By: Strahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Witty, I agree that they use terror. But the terminology &#039;terrorist organization&#039; is political, not moral. Not true either.    I mean, there are very few pure terrorist organizations. All militant nationalist groups like Hamas (and Irgun/etc. before them) use terror.     There is also a term in the realm of international law called &#039;belligerent reprisals&#039;. You attack our civilians, we attack yours.    I don&#039;t think it&#039;s particularly helpful and I doubt any seriously moral person does but it provides context and perspective.    So to use the term &#039;terrorist organization&#039; evokes quite narrow imagery and is purely for rhetorical/political purposes.     Your dishonesty could be dismissed as foolish Utopian windbaggery if you didn&#039;t do it consistently. You&#039;re like Dershowitz calling Peres a &#039;man of peace&#039; during the Dershowitz-Chomsky debate @Harvard. Everyone understood immediately how pretentious Dershowitz was to characterize Peres this way. He went on to fill the air with more empty rhetoric.       </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Witty, I agree that they use terror. But the terminology &#039;terrorist organization&#039; is political, not moral. Not true either.    I mean, there are very few pure terrorist organizations. All militant nationalist groups like Hamas (and Irgun/etc. before them) use terror.     There is also a term in the realm of international law called &#039;belligerent reprisals&#039;. You attack our civilians, we attack yours.    I don&#039;t think it&#039;s particularly helpful and I doubt any seriously moral person does but it provides context and perspective.    So to use the term &#039;terrorist organization&#039; evokes quite narrow imagery and is purely for rhetorical/political purposes.     Your dishonesty could be dismissed as foolish Utopian windbaggery if you didn&#039;t do it consistently. You&#039;re like Dershowitz calling Peres a &#039;man of peace&#039; during the Dershowitz-Chomsky debate @Harvard. Everyone understood immediately how pretentious Dershowitz was to characterize Peres this way. He went on to fill the air with more empty rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to say if Israel&#039;s actions, which kill far larger numbers of civilians and in many cases intentionally, are also terrorism.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to say if Israel&#039;s actions, which kill far larger numbers of civilians and in many cases intentionally, are also terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Hamas has adopted terror as means of &quot;dissent&quot;. You don&#039;t call suicide bombing a cafe &quot;terror&quot;, or firing rockets at civilian cities?    The evidence that I&#039;m aware of Iran&#039;s support of Hamas is in the very common Farsi notifications on Qassams that land in Sderot and elsewhere.    I don&#039;t have access or even photos of evidence of Iranian involvement in funding either through Syria or Gaza.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Hamas has adopted terror as means of &quot;dissent&quot;. You don&#039;t call suicide bombing a cafe &quot;terror&quot;, or firing rockets at civilian cities?    The evidence that I&#039;m aware of Iran&#039;s support of Hamas is in the very common Farsi notifications on Qassams that land in Sderot and elsewhere.    I don&#039;t have access or even photos of evidence of Iranian involvement in funding either through Syria or Gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Strahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the proof that Iran or Ahmedinejad are supporting Hamas? It doesn&#039;t seem far-fetched but where is the proof? Furthermore, to what EXTENT are they supporting Hamas, if in fact they are?    And drop the &#039;terror&#039; line, Witty. Israel kills far more civilians than any of these militias. You&#039;re using the terror line to isolate Israel&#039;s opposition rather than to apply a standard for all. Hence, why you do not characterize Israel&#039;s use of force and the 40+ year Occupation as an act of terror.    Your use of the word is purely political. It has nothing to do with morality or justice.     (This is LD btw.)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the proof that Iran or Ahmedinejad are supporting Hamas? It doesn&#039;t seem far-fetched but where is the proof? Furthermore, to what EXTENT are they supporting Hamas, if in fact they are?    And drop the &#039;terror&#039; line, Witty. Israel kills far more civilians than any of these militias. You&#039;re using the terror line to isolate Israel&#039;s opposition rather than to apply a standard for all. Hence, why you do not characterize Israel&#039;s use of force and the 40+ year Occupation as an act of terror.    Your use of the word is purely political. It has nothing to do with morality or justice.     (This is LD btw.)</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy Old Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revealing.    Signs of moderation among its opponents are Zionism&#039;s worst nightmare.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revealing.    Signs of moderation among its opponents are Zionism&#039;s worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will be interesting if Ahmadinejad goes down, considering Lieberman-N have gone up. Will the MSM and our government keep pasting racist things Lieberman has said across the board of public opinion?   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will be interesting if Ahmadinejad goes down, considering Lieberman-N have gone up. Will the MSM and our government keep pasting racist things Lieberman has said across the board of public opinion?</p>
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