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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blah blah blah. leve Palestina. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blah blah blah. leve Palestina. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: manfromatlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>manfromatlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as you define yourself as a member of a tribe you accept the glue that holds the tribe together, which is the permanent sense of victimhood and entitlement; I respectfully suggest that your positions, on two state vs one state, the right of refugees to return, and settlements in the occupied territories, can not stray too far from the consensus becuase then you would truly be cast off, and the psychological disconnect too hard to bear...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as you define yourself as a member of a tribe you accept the glue that holds the tribe together, which is the permanent sense of victimhood and entitlement; I respectfully suggest that your positions, on two state vs one state, the right of refugees to return, and settlements in the occupied territories, can not stray too far from the consensus becuase then you would truly be cast off, and the psychological disconnect too hard to bear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Martillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Martillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always join &lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ethnic Ashkenazim Against Zionist Israel&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always join <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ethnic Ashkenazim Against Zionist Israel</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkBraverman48</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkBraverman48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Phil,    I went to demonstrate outside last year and got spat on and yelled out, took me weeks to recover.  How do we deal with this horror, shame and anger?  You entered the beast, and found this:  &quot;AIPAC brought me home to this identification. I put aside my assimilationist feelings, my intermarried goyim-loving feelings, and got back to the fact that this is the community I was raised in and love and have grown out of but still love; and I am not going to be deracinated.&quot;  This is preciesly it, it&#039;s a matter of identity.  I returned from one of many speeches at a church last year talking about being a Jew challenging Israel, and being met with openness, interest and gratitude (they like me, they really like me!) and my wife (Jewish) only half jokingly said, &quot;are you becoming Christian?&quot;  I hadn&#039;t considered that, but didn&#039;t miss a beat:  &quot;No, I&#039;m becoming Jewish.&quot;  This is the way, the only way for me now, to be Jewish.&quot;  And its Jewishness and not Judaism that&#039;s on the line here -- the religion, like any of them, can go either way, but ethnic identity seems core (and it can go either way) and you&#039;ve identified that this is what it is about.  I think we need another word than &quot;tribe,&quot; though.  It ocnveys the slap on the back wink wink us and them and we&#039;re better and smarter and don&#039;t let on the secrets.  I first confronted it as an adult when a slimy insurance salesman used it on me -- you&#039;re a member of the tribe, right? - thinking he could sell me that way.  I thought, is this what that&#039;s about?  We need a better word, and not &quot;Jews of Conscience,&quot; I get where Ellis is coming from and don&#039;t disagree but that&#039;s too close to conceited, superior and judgmental.  We&#039;re a movement, and despite the 2 Jews 3 opinions problem, which is everywhere you look, we&#039;re getting somewhere, the clarity of the issue cuts through it.  And besides, we&#039;re outside of our bubble of isolation.  It&#039;s not assimilationist and goyim loving (although I plead guilty, and it&#039;s a guilty pleasure, walking out of the ghetto, why not, there&#039;s a whole world out there, and I love it), its being in the world, and its solidarity with liberation movements, and it works (in a selfish, pragmatic way, it works simply by getting us out of our exceptionalist victim bubble!)  AIPAC&#039;s on the ropes, and we&#039;re powerful. And we need your amazing ability and talent to be in that hall and feel the connection you feel with the Jews there.  My question is: it was a good experience for you, but does that mean you work there, do we focus on the Jewish community represented by AIPAC?  Do we focus on the Jews in the U.S. at all besides picking up people joining our own parade as we march down the street?  I love leaving the Jewish bubble but not only because it&#039;s personally liberating but because it seems to me this is where the potential for political change is, this is where I can be effective.      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Phil,    I went to demonstrate outside last year and got spat on and yelled out, took me weeks to recover.  How do we deal with this horror, shame and anger?  You entered the beast, and found this:  &quot;AIPAC brought me home to this identification. I put aside my assimilationist feelings, my intermarried goyim-loving feelings, and got back to the fact that this is the community I was raised in and love and have grown out of but still love; and I am not going to be deracinated.&quot;  This is preciesly it, it&#039;s a matter of identity.  I returned from one of many speeches at a church last year talking about being a Jew challenging Israel, and being met with openness, interest and gratitude (they like me, they really like me!) and my wife (Jewish) only half jokingly said, &quot;are you becoming Christian?&quot;  I hadn&#039;t considered that, but didn&#039;t miss a beat:  &quot;No, I&#039;m becoming Jewish.&quot;  This is the way, the only way for me now, to be Jewish.&quot;  And its Jewishness and not Judaism that&#039;s on the line here &#8212; the religion, like any of them, can go either way, but ethnic identity seems core (and it can go either way) and you&#039;ve identified that this is what it is about.  I think we need another word than &quot;tribe,&quot; though.  It ocnveys the slap on the back wink wink us and them and we&#039;re better and smarter and don&#039;t let on the secrets.  I first confronted it as an adult when a slimy insurance salesman used it on me &#8212; you&#039;re a member of the tribe, right? &#8211; thinking he could sell me that way.  I thought, is this what that&#039;s about?  We need a better word, and not &quot;Jews of Conscience,&quot; I get where Ellis is coming from and don&#039;t disagree but that&#039;s too close to conceited, superior and judgmental.  We&#039;re a movement, and despite the 2 Jews 3 opinions problem, which is everywhere you look, we&#039;re getting somewhere, the clarity of the issue cuts through it.  And besides, we&#039;re outside of our bubble of isolation.  It&#039;s not assimilationist and goyim loving (although I plead guilty, and it&#039;s a guilty pleasure, walking out of the ghetto, why not, there&#039;s a whole world out there, and I love it), its being in the world, and its solidarity with liberation movements, and it works (in a selfish, pragmatic way, it works simply by getting us out of our exceptionalist victim bubble!)  AIPAC&#039;s on the ropes, and we&#039;re powerful. And we need your amazing ability and talent to be in that hall and feel the connection you feel with the Jews there.  My question is: it was a good experience for you, but does that mean you work there, do we focus on the Jewish community represented by AIPAC?  Do we focus on the Jews in the U.S. at all besides picking up people joining our own parade as we march down the street?  I love leaving the Jewish bubble but not only because it&#039;s personally liberating but because it seems to me this is where the potential for political change is, this is where I can be effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever read YNet/JPost/Haaretz commentary? Do you live in the same world as I do? Every time non-violent civilians get hurt is terrible, and the media says it is terrible.     &quot;they dismiss them as foolish or terrorist sympathizers.&quot; I live in Israel for 29 years and I NEVER heard such comments from the media. Strahl, you are fake. You are trying to make us evil as to give your life meaning. We are not evil, and you are not moral.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever read YNet/JPost/Haaretz commentary? Do you live in the same world as I do? Every time non-violent civilians get hurt is terrible, and the media says it is terrible.     &quot;they dismiss them as foolish or terrorist sympathizers.&quot; I live in Israel for 29 years and I NEVER heard such comments from the media. Strahl, you are fake. You are trying to make us evil as to give your life meaning. We are not evil, and you are not moral.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.    (Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.&#8221;    2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: &#8220;This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.&#8221; &#8212; vide, photostat facing page 80.    ~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.    (Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.&rdquo;    2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: &ldquo;This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.&rdquo; &mdash; vide, photostat facing page 80.    ~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:    &#8221; Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.    The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:    1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians&#8217; lives.    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]         </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:    &rdquo; Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.    The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:    1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians&rsquo; lives.    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90 % of  the people who call themselves Jews are descendants of the Khazars.  Only about 9 or 10 percent of you are a Semitic people called the Sephardic Jews.  That is why the term anti-Semitic does not make any sense. So 90 percent of the worlds &quot;Jews&quot; have no birthright to live in Palastine. When the Jews accept the teachings of Jesus Christ we will have peace in the world. Also, are you aware that Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany was financed by the Warburgs and other wealthy Jewish bankers. Most Jews in Europe at the time had no desire to relocate to the desert in Palestine, so the  elder Zionists had to make life very uncomfortable for the average Jew in Europe. Hence, they financed the Nazis which acted as a facilitator for the migration of Jews to the Holy Land.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90 % of  the people who call themselves Jews are descendants of the Khazars.  Only about 9 or 10 percent of you are a Semitic people called the Sephardic Jews.  That is why the term anti-Semitic does not make any sense. So 90 percent of the worlds &quot;Jews&quot; have no birthright to live in Palastine. When the Jews accept the teachings of Jesus Christ we will have peace in the world. Also, are you aware that Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany was financed by the Warburgs and other wealthy Jewish bankers. Most Jews in Europe at the time had no desire to relocate to the desert in Palestine, so the  elder Zionists had to make life very uncomfortable for the average Jew in Europe. Hence, they financed the Nazis which acted as a facilitator for the migration of Jews to the Holy Land.</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget that - I commented on the wrong post - delete this and the last one please!!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget that &#8211; I commented on the wrong post &#8211; delete this and the last one please!!</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha Hardenne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natasha Hardenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did this meeting take place?   </description>
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