Joe Biden to AIPAC: ‘You’re not going to like my saying this–’

The vice president said a few words about freezing settlement expansion and granting greater freedom of movement to Palestinians as a means of demonstrating Israel's commitment to Palestinian statehood. "Show me," he challenged Israel. And he got applause. Not a smattering, but not robust either.

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  1. Mooser says:

    Israel dismisses UN accusation of 'grave offences' in Gaza war Report claiming deliberate targeting of UN civilians and institutions is biased, Israel says http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/05/israe... Israel calls it "patently biased". And you know who holds that patent. The Nazis, that's who! Cause that's what "UN" stands for, United Nazis!!! Cur klezmer arrangement of "You and Me Against the World".

  2. 5ds says:

    i suppose favoring truth can be seen as a bias by those who prefer lies.

  3. aristeides says:

    Biden as a senator was long calling for negotiating with Iran. Did he say anything about this in his speech?

  4. 5ds says:

    strange system. comments. hidden comments. appearing/disappearing comments.

  5. nyer says:

    You mean moderated comments? Well, I have to give philipweiss credit though for at least letting us making a comment anonymously. I hope more people see this blog/analysis and react though. seems to be an interesting crowd here. Cheers!

  6. Irish truth? says:

    Looks like Biden is tuned into N's rejuvenated approach, ignore Pal suffering for something they did not originally cause, and tune into a veneer of economic freedom, so a Pal can even move to a job or his land to support his family, as a ruse to keep grabbing more land while News taken over by Iran-USIsrael stance on nukes. Kerry, as usual , is not too bright–he's an idealist, not so Obama or Israeli regime. Hence the tepid hand claps for Kerry, who actually looks at the moral Macro, and tries to finesse it via indication he knows the truth about the I-P history and what justice and ethics demands if the USA wishes to be respected in the world, let alone be a light to the world (not a bi-polar world of Jews & Goys).

  7. Mooser says:

    "not a bi-polar world of Jews & Goys" Hardly enough Jews for that, I would say. Maybe we punch above our weight, or so people say, but still…

  8. Dick says:

    They might have trouble making Joe look flakey. Everybody knows it already.

  9. DICKERSON3870 says:

    RE: "The vice president said a few words about freezing settlement expansion…" MY COMMENT: That was ballsy!

  10. Fineline says:

    Freezing settlements is the least of it. Dismantling settlements and returning all of the properties taken over in the West Bank and Jerusalem would be a good start. But Israel has no intention of doing either. And it will take a hell of a lot more than the soaring rhetoric of Obama and the sinking ruminations of Biden to alter the status quo. As it will take more than claiming words as progress on that issue to persuade the Arabs countries to support yet another U.S. Israeli obsession: attacking Iran.

  11. Citizen says:

    I am afraid I agree with Fineline. Yet also with Dickerson3870. And to Mooser I say: Likud POV Jews punch above their weight due to USA campaign finance law, and their honed financial abilities, in turn which are due to two things: ancient laws forbidding Christians to engage in usury & companion ancient laws that deprived diaspora Jews of land-owning and its perks in the Middle Ages. In the end, I don't hold the Jews most responsible, but the usual goy pricks, those and these fake Christians who will always milk their own people, and then, after using the too-willing Jews to help them for their own benefit, will scapecoat the Jews when the masses finally arise with their pitch forks. So much world history tell us so.

  12. Mooser says:

    "masses finally arise with their pitch forks." All those bi-polar Jews and Goys with pitchforks? That's it, I'm moving to Israel.

  13. Oscar says:

    Wow. Biden says, you're not gonna like this. And the crowd didn't. Talking about raining on someone's parade — after all the 6,000-strong hoopla about rah-rah Israel and bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran, what a buzzkill Biden and Kerry must have been. Going to be an interesting dicussion between Peres and Obama . . .

  14. Citizen says:

    @ Mooser, maybe you should; I say you have about a decade before the shit hits the fan, the fan started by AIPAC & in partnership with Goy whores. OTH, you and Phil, e.g., are an example why those very pitch-forks cam be blunted–in short, if the if the USA ever rises up against the Jews with sharp pitch-forks, you have only your own people too blame. If Jewish Americans can't be just so as to be for justice done in USA name with all the freedom they have here, and the power, then Fate is not susceptible to human will.

  15. Mooser says:

    "if the if the USA ever rises up against the Jews with sharp pitch-forks," I don't know about Phil, but I plan to hide behind my wife. I'll dress up like Anne Frank and hide in the attic. It ought to enliven our sex life, too. I wonder if she still has all her old Nazi domanitrix gear from before we got married. Probably in a cedar chest somwhere, along with old my love-letters, and pictures of long gone dogs and cats. RIP Morgan and Phil (the cat, not Weiss) But now on to the practical problems; if the Gentiles decide to stick us with pitch-forks, where will they get a list of Jews, so's they know who should get stuck with said pitchforks?

  16. David. says:

    "If the if the USA ever rises up against the Jews with sharp pitch-forks, you have only your own people too blame …" Citizen, someone stupid enough to write this kind of shit should post less and think more. Or, try to contribute some actual facts, links, and information to the discussion. Just being full of passionate intensity isn't enough to make your contributions of any value to anyone.

  17. Jim Haygood says:

    Mooser-man seems to be coyly alluding to that old porn chestnut, 'Ilsa — She Wolf of the SS.' The plot goes like this — 'Plot: The SS Commandant Ilsa runs a Nazi concentration camp where she conducts cruel experiments in an attempt to prove her theory that women can withstand more pain than men. Ilsa is also sexually insatiable, taking male prisoners as lovers and castrating them once she is finished so they can be of no use to any other woman. But then she meets her match in Wolfe, a German-American prisoner who is able to tame her passions with his ability to withhold ejaculation as long as he wants. What is utterly outrageous about Ilsa is how it exploits the Jewish Holocaust for its ends. A pre-credits note announces that it is offering up a true account of the Holocaust atrocities – a claim that is surely akin to a porn film declaring that it is making a realistic statement about rape. The film is definitely made on the cheap. The Nazi uniforms seem ill-fitting, as though they had simply been rented from the local costume shop, and the death camp consists of merely half-a-dozen wooden huts. (It was in fact shot on the sets left over from the recently defunct Hogan’s Heroes tv series [1965-71]). To the film’s credit it does at least make the attempt to translate its background signs into German. http://www.moria.co.nz/index.php?option=com_conte... Wow … when will the real story of Anne Frank's smokin' attic trysts be filmed? You da man, evidently.

  18. morgan says:

    what did jews and israel think would happen after 40 years of manipulating our foreign policy, passing laws banning jesus/manger scenes, blackmailing our elected officials, 5000 americans killed in iraq because jewish interest in the administration colluded with israel to forge evidence of wmds, 3000 americans killed on 9/11 because our congressman are pressured by the lobby to back israel no matter what they do to arabs, jewish media who told us "they hate our freedom" instead of telling americans the truth that we were attacked for our support of israel, the aipac spy trial fiasco, ehud olmert bragging that he made bush leave the stage to take his call, ect ect ………BACKLASH???? yeah i think thats fair to say……..no americans support israel only jews in america do. and

  19. Peaceful_Idiot says:

    Biden, gaffe machine, strikes again. At least when viewed through Zionist eyes.

  20. Dick says:

    Gaffe? Not this time. I don't think he would have said that without a green light from Obama. But Fineline is right. Netanyahu won't be dismantling any settlements.

  21. Peaceful_Idiot says:

    At a young age, every goy child is supplied with a Standard Issue WASP Box of Jew Hatred. I have the 1035 model myself.

  22. MRW says:

    It was no gaffe, Peaceful_Idiot. He was sent to deliver the message. So was Kerry. Remember Emanuel's highly-publicized message to a 'leading Jewish leader' two weeks ago. Rahm Emanuel told an (unnamed) Jewish leader; "In the next four years there is going to be a permanent status arrangement between Israel and the Palestinians on the basis of two states for two peoples, and it doesn't matter to us at all who is prime minister." AIPACers are whistling dixie if they can't feel the winds of change. Israel fucked up bigtime bombing Gaza and now lying about the damage they did. Also A. LIeberman in FM position was a strategic mistake on N's part.

  23. MRW says:

    Egypt's remark today about Israeli nukes was no mistake, either.

  24. MRW says:

    It was Colin who told us that the only US network allowed in Israel was Fox News. Maybe Israel better rethink that one ASAP. They are obviously getting the wrong messages about what's happening in this country.

  25. Duscany says:

    I remember back in the Sixties when State Department Kremlinologists would read between the lines of every speech of every Russian leader and pore over every story in Pravda for a hint of Soviet intentions. We're doing the same thing today with the utterances of American and Israeli leaders. One line in an adulatory speech by Biden or one (missing) sentence in a speech by Netanyahu becomes the basis for feverish speculation regarding America's relationship with Israel. I may be jaded and overly pessimistic but I don't see any American president ever pressuring Israel about anything–unless forced to do so by a united front of every other nation in the world responding to the prospect of a nuclear war in the Mid-East. But by that time Obama will be ending his second term and the Republicans will have the senate back. So nothing will change even then.

  26. morgan says:

    obamaknows the american people are disgusted with israel/aipac and he is an america first, second,and third president……….the only thing israel has ever done for america is cause muslims to attack us…and then use jewish operatives in the bush white house to push us into war with iraq killing 5,000 americans, while israel provided the forged wmd's documents. to americans neocons=jew traitors in government. and america will never let bthat happen again!……..jews want war with iran????? go ahead we hope iran incinerates you filth

  27. Paul says:

    Does anyone disagree that a nuclear-armed Iran, might be the best factor of deterrence for Israel? Israel has shown over the past decades that it never listens to the US proposals for peace deals. The Israelis starve the Palestinian people and then bomb them when elections come up. This immense cruelty is something that the state of Israel needs to consider, when wanting to be seen a just nation.

  28. Richard01 says:

    I suppose Ehud Barak (head of Sayeret Matkal) dressing up up as a woman to kill a Palesitinian poet (Ghassan Khanafani ) in Beirut in the early 70s was trying to show Israel's global reach. So did those who assassinated a waiter in Norway. I'm expecting a visit, sometime.

  29. Richard01 says:

    No, Morgan you're wrong. Well at least 90% wrong. Jews in America don't support Israel's behaviour; they support the country in ignorance of what the place really is, a nasty shitty little Levantine country in the Middle East.

  30. Margaret599 says:

    Nice and easy, that, puts all the guilt on to others.

  31. Strahl says:

    A nuclear and independent Iran would be a great deterrent for us AND Israel. It's sad that it comes to this though. When a country like Iran with all it's internal problems is relatively better externally than the US. Just goes to show you how disconnected our leadership is w/ our progressive legacy Stateside. We're monsters to most everyone else.

  32. moshe says:

    Knock-offs along the line of the old Ilsa video are continuous big underground sellers in Israel. It's not the Israeli arabs or christians that are buying them. Same for the human trafficking so abundant in Israel–they love those Russian-Ukrainian blondes seduced to Israel by help-wanted ads for domestic help, then turned into white slaves. Been going on for a long time, bubie.

  33. Israeli guy says:

    Well, Mossad recruited a blonde shiksa-looker to nab the guy who revealed the Israeli nuke site…. worked like a charm. I think he's still treading feeble water in Israel. Why not? He took photos of the nuke site that isn't there… Amazing how the West pretends those photos don't exist.

  34. Citizen says:

    Please reread my context in the same comment. Then please explain what's wrong with the logic. Thanks. Otherwise, your comment is useless. Looking forward to your valuable response.

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