http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81648 andrew Thu, 21 May 2009 06:58:33 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81648 The PLO guarded the Jewish neighborhood Wadi Abu Jamil in Beirut during the civil war. Hizbullah supports restoring the Magen Abraham Synagogue. Hamas gave a Palestinian passport to Jeff Halper. The PLO guarded the Jewish neighborhood Wadi Abu Jamil in Beirut during the civil war. Hizbullah supports restoring the Magen Abraham Synagogue. Hamas gave a Palestinian passport to Jeff Halper.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81647 Jake in Jerusalem Wed, 20 May 2009 10:17:40 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81647 Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Have you been practicing your goose step? Looking forward to the return of the good old days? Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Have you been practicing your goose step? Looking forward to the return of the good old days?

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81630 Jake in Jerusalem Wed, 20 May 2009 10:15:45 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81630 The point was that Palestineans, like Arabs and Muslims elsewhere in the Middle East, are taught fallacies and false histories so as to perpetuate their struggle against the Infidel. Israel happens to be the nearest Infidel state (and you are not far down on the list of Infidels). Thus, when Israeli PM Netanyahu requires that the Palestinean Authority use the VAST sums of money donated to them by Uncle Sam, the EU, UNRWA and various well-meaning (and some good old fashioned antisemitic) church groups to educate young Palestinean children for PEACE instead of EVERLASTING JIHAD, then Netanyahu's request is appropriate , positive and constructive. The point was that Palestineans, like Arabs and Muslims elsewhere in the Middle East, are taught fallacies and false histories so as to perpetuate their struggle against the Infidel. Israel happens to be the nearest Infidel state (and you are not far down on the list of Infidels). Thus, when Israeli PM Netanyahu requires that the Palestinean Authority use the VAST sums of money donated to them by Uncle Sam, the EU, UNRWA and various well-meaning (and some good old fashioned antisemitic) church groups to educate young Palestinean children for PEACE instead of EVERLASTING JIHAD, then Netanyahu's request is appropriate , positive and constructive.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81583 Jake in Jerusalem Wed, 20 May 2009 10:07:41 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81583 Fact: The USA/Britain/France/et al did NOT put Mubarak in power (for life!) in Egypt, nor Madman Qadaffi in Libya (Clinton actually bombed him), nor Assad Jr in Syria (after his father Assad Sr died after HE overthrew the previous govt), nor King Abdullah II in Jordan (King Abdullah bin Hussein bin Talal bin Hussein, all Kings of Jordan before him - oh and THEY stole the East Bank of Palestine for themselves, which is why King Hussein I was ASSASINATED by Palestineans), nor Ahmadinejad nor any of the Ayatollahs in Iran, nor the al Sauds in Arabia (who stole the land from the Hashemites and then named the country after their own family), nor any of the MANY OTHER Arab and Muslim despots who rule the Middle East. Fact: I am not kicking the Petro States around, Israel isn't kicking them around, the US pays through the nose for oil and is not kicking them around. Fact: RowanBerkeley has yet to provide a single fact in contribution to this discussion. I am not impressed. Fact: The USA/Britain/France/et al did NOT put Mubarak in power (for life!) in Egypt, nor Madman Qadaffi in Libya (Clinton actually bombed him), nor Assad Jr in Syria (after his father Assad Sr died after HE overthrew the previous govt), nor King Abdullah II in Jordan (King Abdullah bin Hussein bin Talal bin Hussein, all Kings of Jordan before him – oh and THEY stole the East Bank of Palestine for themselves, which is why King Hussein I was ASSASINATED by Palestineans), nor Ahmadinejad nor any of the Ayatollahs in Iran, nor the al Sauds in Arabia (who stole the land from the Hashemites and then named the country after their own family), nor any of the MANY OTHER Arab and Muslim despots who rule the Middle East. Fact: I am not kicking the Petro States around, Israel isn't kicking them around, the US pays through the nose for oil and is not kicking them around. Fact: RowanBerkeley has yet to provide a single fact in contribution to this discussion. I am not impressed.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81591 Jacobwolfen Tue, 19 May 2009 21:48:47 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81591 Not the first time that has happened. Not the first time that has happened.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81590 Jacobwolfen Tue, 19 May 2009 21:48:23 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81590 I assume you have a close relationship and share many personality traits. I assume you have a close relationship and share many personality traits.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81646 Jake in Jerusalem Tue, 19 May 2009 20:13:49 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81646 Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Anyways, it's not the past. Palestinean terrorism is trying to kill people TODAY. Like the missiles launched ffrom Gaza TODAY thgat knocked down an Israeli house. Get over it????? Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Anyways, it's not the past. Palestinean terrorism is trying to kill people TODAY. Like the missiles launched ffrom Gaza TODAY thgat knocked down an Israeli house. Get over it?????

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81635 Jake in Jerusalem Tue, 19 May 2009 20:11:15 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81635 Rowan, thank you for measuring my mind for me. You really make your points eloquently! What is relevant, though, is that the accusations against Israeli soldiers were unsubstantiated, that a subsequent investigation found NO evidence whatsoever to support them and that these were fraudulent claims made by a self-promoting, publicity-seeking crackpot. Or, to paraphrase a favorite expert I know, "um... does that make them plausible, to your tiny mind?" Cheers, Rowan! :-) Rowan, thank you for measuring my mind for me. You really make your points eloquently! What is relevant, though, is that the accusations against Israeli soldiers were unsubstantiated, that a subsequent investigation found NO evidence whatsoever to support them and that these were fraudulent claims made by a self-promoting, publicity-seeking crackpot. Or, to paraphrase a favorite expert I know, "um… does that make them plausible, to your tiny mind?" Cheers, Rowan! :-)

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81629 Jake in Jerusalem Tue, 19 May 2009 20:05:50 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81629 The point is that Israeli PM Netanyahu is perfectly reasonable when he expects the Palestinean Authority to educate children for peace, the same way Israeli children are taught. Palestinean schools teach that Jews never lived in Israel in ancient times and that the Holocaust never happened. This is official education policy in the Palestinean Authority. Peace efforts with people like that are not going to bear fruit. The point is that Israeli PM Netanyahu is perfectly reasonable when he expects the Palestinean Authority to educate children for peace, the same way Israeli children are taught. Palestinean schools teach that Jews never lived in Israel in ancient times and that the Holocaust never happened. This is official education policy in the Palestinean Authority. Peace efforts with people like that are not going to bear fruit.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/05/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-81654 RowanBerkeley Tue, 19 May 2009 20:04:58 +0000 http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/05/18/obama-settlements-have-to-be-stopped-in-order-for-us-to-move-forward.html#comment-81654 "discredited" by whom exactly? can't you be bothered to give details? "discredited" by whom exactly? can't you be bothered to give details?

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